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Old 23rd June 2005, 12:12 AM   #11
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Did you listen to both or just the floorstander?
Just listened to the TL and I reckon it has better bass capabilities.
Still very small, skinny and high-waf-design.

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Old 23rd June 2005, 02:16 AM   #12
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Old 23rd June 2005, 11:24 PM   #13
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seems like you like to design yourself but please have a look at this:
Thanks for the plans. After studying the Te-el, I must say I would not be tempted comparing to the TB4D. It achieves 50 Hz needing to be a 110cm floorstander with a back tail when the TB4D does 48 hz being 40cm tall. Then the Te-el is 88dB when the TB4D is 90dB. Its crossover uses 6 elements when TB4D requires only 3 (2.2//2.2uf counts as one).
It must be good sounding but I suspect a less controled box coloration and possibly a pipe resonance. All cavities are bad things and I prefer a small reflex cavity to a long pipe one. I would use a folded horn if to make a floorstander with 2 W657.
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The Grünanlage just underwent an update. Salas low pass filter is pretty close to the blue planet acoustic crossover but the tweeter really should have a 12 db high pass.

Salas is absolutely right about the bass extension. The TL and BR go equally low but obviously they sound a little different.

The TL was recently profiled in Klang + Ton. The speaker is totally worth the money.
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Old 19th February 2013, 12:03 PM   #17
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The tall German version is quoted something like 87dB sens per W? This one is 90dB with no attenuation on the TW combining the 6dB electrical and the acoustic roll-off. Its possible they don't have that much difference in tweeter THD when playing same moderate SPL for used Wattage. Although I found the 1st order more coherent for transition and more expansive for sound stage when I designed it ~6yrs ago its likely the 12dB could be more THD controlling when pushed far. It plays in a small living room and never coughed in there though.
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