Question about Vintage Pioneer equipment

[cody6766]

cool, I'll have to try that. What is Apple Loseless though...never heard of it. Is it a PC compatable program?

[planet10]

Originally posted by cody6766
What is Apple Loseless though...never heard of it. Is it a PC compatable program?

If you are using iTunes (the sw not the store) it is one of the options for ripping CDs. I ripped my entire CD collection to HD. I'll be using an iMac with a USB DAC as a substitute for a CD player...

dave

[kneadle]

Hi dave,

I've been thinking about this for a day or so now, so I thought I'd respond just so I can go on to more profitable things:

I do the same thing for this reason: I have a pro-sumer sound card for digital audio recording and mixing, a card that is rated at 24/96 bitrate/kHz, produced by M-Audio, a reputable D/A-A/D hardware business (they're making mics now, too. Can't wait to try them).

So I figure that both features, that is, the extra headroom in the bitrate and amplitude along with the quality D/A converters make the music sound "better." Otherwise, I don't understand the science behind reproducing 44.1/16 on a CD player vs. direct-from-hd.

Is this why you do it?

Please answer so I can sleep tonight.

Dave

[planet10]

Originally posted by kneadle
I do the same thing for this reason: I have a pro-sumer sound card for digital audio recording and mixing, a card that is rated at 24/96 bitrate/kHz, produced by M-Audio, a reputable D/A-A/D hardware business (they're making mics now, too. Can't wait to try them).

So I figure that both features, that is, the extra headroom in the bitrate and amplitude along with the quality D/A converters make the music sound "better." Otherwise, I don't understand the science behind reproducing 44.1/16 on a CD player vs. direct-from-hd.

Is this why you do it?

I don't exactly know what you are asking...

Putting the music (at full rez) on the hard drive, with a big RAM buffer at hand, gives the computer a BIG theoretical advantage over a regular transport (when ripping the disk the software has time to go over & over a section to ensure all the bits are sucked, unlike a regular transport whichwhen playing in real time will sometimes have to guess).

The DAC should be outside the box, because inside the box is very noisy.

I've heard good things about the m-audio stuff and equally as bad things about their attitude to driver support.

If this 1st experiement works out, i'll be keeping my eye out for a firewire Mac and a better DAC (feeding from the FireWire -- DIY USB DACs & digital outs have already made board group buys on some forums, shouldn't be too long before we see FireWire ones.

My Xitel USB DAC is sitting in the post office as we speak i should get it hooked this evening and will be able to start listening.

dave

[kneadle]

You answered my question. You do it, in short, for throughput advantages. And yes, that's also a reason to have the computer do it. I forgot about that one.

Exterior v. Interior DAC is one of those debates that continues to rage. Self-noise is a big deal among the pros, but I figure once you reach below 100dB, it's sorta like the speaker cable thing. At that point in an amateur's signal chain, there are other issues that should be addressed.

M-audio really ticked me off when they dropped the Dman 2044 like a hot stone. They refused to develop drivers for the NT kernel. Grr...So I bought their Delta 44, and I've been more than satisfied for 2 years or so.

Thanks,
Dave