How does Morels sound?

[foo]

They look like Dynaudio drivers .
Do they sound like Dynaudios?
How does Supreme130 sounds ?

[rudi]

I have a pair of morel Mw144 that i use in 12 liter boxes. (one per box) with a 45mm id port that is 153 mm long. the sound is amazing . extremely fast and very deep well defined bass. i use this in conjuction with ribbon tweeter and they complement each other very well

regards
Rudi

[hep]

rudi,

the mw144 in a 12 liter vented box with a ribbon tweeter sounds something which could fit to my specifications. Can you tell more? Which tweeter, what kind of a x-over, etc.

[Jarno]

I have a closed two way system (about 12 litres) with a MW164 and a MDT-30s. I recently added a bassreflex enclosure (about 50litres) with a ScanSpeak to each channel (left and right).
Great sound, unobtrusive. Even though the tweeters are playing about 1dB too loud (according to the specs) .I you want maximum definition go for ribbons, and other brands like Scanspeak or Focal, but I have found these to be too "upfront" for my taste.

[Noksukau]

Originally posted by Jarno
I you want maximum definition go for ribbons, and other brands like Scanspeak or Focal, but I have found these to be too "upfront" for my taste.

Couldn't comment on ribbons as I've never had the pleasure of critically listening to any. For definition though I find my Morel MDT-39s more detailed than any of my Focal tweeters (TC120tdx2, TC90TD5B). I agree with Jarno, I find them too upfront, and they certainly 'ting' and do other sparkly effects well, but overall I can hear more through the Morels. Perhaps it's my crossover implementation, I don't know, but it has given me a taste for Morel and I look forward to trying their more refined designs in the future. (I have a secret 'fantasy' design cooked up somewhere using a Supreme 130 ).

[rudi]

Originally posted by hep
rudi,

the mw144 in a 12 liter vented box with a ribbon tweeter sounds something which could fit to my specifications. Can you tell more? Which tweeter, what kind of a x-over, etc.

there is a host of extremely good ribbons still hidden form the world. you will be able to find some from Pinsh Audio, UK based (i know they aren't well known) but i think they will be. you can buy directly from them but the range is very wide so you have to specify exactly what you want, there web site is under construction but you can keep looking at www.pinsh.com

they have a wide range from very small ribbons up to full range ribbons available, in my own system i use two Mw144 in seperate boxes and one of there midrange ribbons(700hz upto 40 000hz) it acts as a super tweeter aswell

they make use of morel units in all there designs and is maybe the only speaker that matches the speed of the ribbon

regarding dome tweeters. they will always sound upfront. once you heard a ribbon you will never go back to a dome even the really expensive ones

[rudi]

I nearly forgot about the crossover. i use a very simple first order without any additional correcting networks. this i have found to give me the cleanest sound. you do not loose the music

1.2 mH choke 6.8mf poly cap and a series resistor (and this is not due to the lack of knowing how to design the others, i have done them all), it is simply the best . complicated crossovers are for drivers that have problems. the morels don't have any problems. even the little 5" speakers have a 3"voice coil. you have so much control there it is unbelievable

[5th element]

What are the prices like on their ribbons?

[rudi]

Originally posted by 5th element
What are the prices like on their ribbons?

I think they are very well priced compared to other units out there. you might find that other units looks more commercial but i found that these sound the best by far, they are hand made with only the best materials available. the best would be for you to contact Pinsh directly for some prices and Units that are available

[cody6766]

I'm definatly a Morel fan. I've used their MDT10 tweets in my car for a few years now and haven't found anything I'd give them up for. I did a lot of research when I was deciding on my new front stage and listend to a whole lot of different drivers and couldn't find somethign that quite fit my tastes. Focal was too bright, JL was too 'dead', JBL was too mechanical...it went on. I bought the MDT10's on a blind run (couldn't hear them) and I fell in love.

I also ran a pair of Mw166 mids for a while. They sounded really good but weren't fit for a car audio app. I think they would have sounded great in a pair of cabinets though. I wish I hadn't smoked them...

I haven't heard Dynaudio, so I can't really compare. The best I can say is they're very natural. They sound like the instrument they're reproducing and nothing else. Morel makes really nice drivers.

I used an active xover. 18dB/oct set at 2500hz