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Old 27th March 2005, 09:20 PM   #41
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Those speakers are actually very respectable performers. Even the little 6" powered subwoofer is pretty impressive for its size. If you can add a larger subwoofer to that system it will WAY outperform a Bose system.
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Old 27th March 2005, 10:42 PM   #42
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Those speakers are actually very respectable performers. Even the little 6" powered subwoofer is pretty impressive for its size. If you can add a larger subwoofer to that system it will WAY outperform a Bose system.

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Old 27th March 2005, 11:53 PM   #43
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First, would your wife appreciate the effort you put into building them let alone the increased quality? If so build 'em.
Only a few women will ever appreciate the effort when it comes to speakers. She only wants them to be small. Sound is an after thought.

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[i]If not buy her the Bose, if that's what it is, that she wants. I have made the mistake of buying what I knew to be better when my wife wanted something else. [/B]
Bad Flaevor. No Bose. If she knew anything about speakers, she would know not to buy Bose.

Dave, tell her to allow you to do the choosing in areas you are better suited. Don't be P-whipped in this one, put your foot down. It's like letting her decide on a car because it's the nicest coloured one on the lot. You each have areas in which you excel. You try not to cross that line don't you?. Time to remind her.

If all else fails, stick to your guns, because sleeping on the couch is kind of like going camping anyways. And besides she'll stop pouting just in time to see your wonderful new creation.

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Bad suggestion again.
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[i]just make sure you repent and offer a sacrifice to the Audio gods. [/B]
The sacrifice might be you Dave. God will not forgive such sins. Remember he is very familiar with the value of DIY.

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Old 28th March 2005, 12:37 AM   #44
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When it comes to audio choices, women do not get to make the decisions. Input is fine, but the ultimate decision is yours. Are you going to let her choose your car, your golf clubs, your brand of beer? No, of course not, just like you don't get the final say on much of anything that goes in the house. She can help determine the budget and give opinions if you solicit them. Something you have to keep in mind is that she really doesn't care. Just don't try to put some unfinished MDF cabs in the house. Showing her the Bose was good in that it gives you more $$$ to work with. Explain to her that Bose is a rip off. They spend all their money on marketing to sell an inferior product. That's why they do not allow side by side comparisons. Then say "Honey, now that I know what you like, please leave it up to me. Stereos are a guy thing and I don't want US to get ripped off by fancy marketing".

If you go DIY, then the sky is the limit style wise. Solicit her opinion if you want, but keep in mind SHE DOESN'T CARE. The strawberries are of equal importance to her, so don't worry about being decisive. You can't screw up unless you really blow the budget. Just don't put something too big or ugly in her house. Get or build what you want.

I'm lucky, my young wife leaves it all up to me.
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Old 28th March 2005, 12:40 AM   #45
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For one thing, it's his girlfriend not his wife. And, it's a small artist's studio not a house.

If she wants Bose and is going to foot the bill herself, I say let her buy them. Maybe she'll learn a lesson from it.
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Old 28th March 2005, 12:51 AM   #46
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Thanks for all the marriage counseling. However,

A) We are not married;
B) We are not living together; and
C) Who asked?

After modeling all the little speakers, it would appear that to keep the boxes tiny, one is forced to make the same compromise that Bo$e did: to avoid directional bass, have a suckout at 200Hz. Better drivers would help on the distortion front, but still. The best thing would be to make the satelite boxes bigger.
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Old 28th March 2005, 03:14 AM   #47
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Well - if she likes the small cube look then cut a few solid blocks of wood, paint them black and hang them on the wall.
Then make some speakers to fit into the ceiling or wall cavity as most women simply do not like large speakers in a room.

Or buy some non Bose small speakers, take her shopping ( they all like that ) and have a look and listen to whats available.

Just out of interest - are there any women on this forum ?

I have designed a " Bose beater "- it looks just like a baseball bat.
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Old 28th March 2005, 04:02 AM   #48
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There may be a few women on the forum. I think I've seen at least one....


Here's what I suggest. Throw the tiny dimensions of the bose speakers out the window. If they were decent speakers, a clone might be a good idea, but since they're not we should try something different. I would suggest MTs for the 5 channels. You can get something between 4 and 6 inch midranges (something that will cover ~80hz-5k) and then for a tweeter I would want something you could cross over as low as maybe 3k, but if the midrange is good, cross over higher.

The cabs wouldnt need to be any bigger than .25 cubic feet for those.

For a sub you could build something inconspicous. Downfiring coffe table or end table. Infinite baffle would be awesome also if you can do it!

The point bose trys to make is that small speakers can fit in anywhere.

The point in DIY is to be able to fit speakers anywhere!

I'm sure your girlfriend wouldnt mind some elegant floorstanders. but I know she wouldnt like some scrap MDF boxes that arent even jointed nicely even if theyre small.

Let your girlfriend know, size does matter. If its too big women dont like it, if its too small they shouldnt either!
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Old 28th March 2005, 05:45 AM   #49
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If not buy her the Bose, if that's what it is, that she wants. I have made the mistake of buying what I knew to be better when my wife wanted something else.
While undoubtedly sats made with any of the above drivers and a small sub will blow away a 4-letter system, so will a KLH microsat/midbass system from Best Buy that costs 1/4 as much. The build quality is also no worse than the four-letter acousticmess.

Alternately, nice small hybrid prefab/DIY system would be to find a used pair of NHT SuperZeros (6"x6"x9" or so) and a DIY midbass bin with an Adire Koda 8 in it. Unlike the KLH system, that would also be a serious system capable of reproducing music at a decently high resolution. Maybe there are other cheap n' cheerful minimonitors today that are better than Ken Kantor's classics, but I don't know the current contenders.

To DIY, the Aura NS3 or HiVi drivers are the best bet, but if size is more of a priority than the Aura Whispers sound very pleasant and a double-stack of those would only need about 16 fluid ounces of airspace.
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Old 28th March 2005, 11:02 AM   #50
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I think my post was a little misunderstood, so if it made you mad, I'm sorry. (certainly it distracted from your question, for that I apologize) As for project suggestions I think any of them will be significantly better than Bose.
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