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Old 25th May 2006, 01:55 AM   #191
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I do believe I have seen something of the sort on Planet10's site, tl-speakers.com. Or, something like that. Apparently the results were quite good, but I guess WAF of PVC is kind of low. I mean, it is **** pipe.
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Old 25th May 2006, 04:36 AM   #192
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Hehehehehe................. yes true. But I'm sure there are lots of funcky coatings out there

Just a thought

Yes planets site is very insperational, now you remeind me.......
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Old 6th July 2006, 07:48 PM   #193
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I'm bracing myself for a full frontal assault....but....I've been a designer at Bose for over 17yrs now and small is beautiful here so I feel for the questioner but I can't quite reach him:-). Yes, ladies love our small stylish systems but a lot of non-audiophiles do too.

I put and older Bose single cube 5.1 system on the ceiling of my family room for HT use (prewired) and it was simple and the results satisfying. The bass box is inside the closed entertainment cabinet! But I have dual 31 band 1/3 oct EQ on it ($95) so it sounds quite nice for HT. I have custom dipoles in the living room with my stereo system. I'd suggest a Logitech system (they have many) and save the money you'd have spend on Bose (because that's probably the biggest gripe audiophiles have with Bose products). Then take the money you saved and build a line source and even if you're stuck using them in the garage , at least you won't have Bose in the house. Or....submit and buy a Bose Jewel Cube system and delight your girlfriend!
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Old 6th July 2006, 08:34 PM   #196
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I've been following this thread intermittently over its lifetime. While most agree that the B*SE sound is not something we want to imitate, I haven't seen many DIY solutions the size of a small milk carton. (That's 0.25 L to those in the non-measurement-impaired portion of the world.)

Why not? The reason's pretty clear... can't get the bass out of a cube that size. So you've got the mids coming out of the "sub", meaning the bass is localized, yadda yadda yadda.

Maybe, just maybe, our friend the B*SE designer and his colleagues have done a pretty good job given the constraints of size.

That mean I'll buy it? Nope. I think I can extend the WAF to about a 2 L volume.

I won't address the issue of price or advertising claims
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Old 6th July 2006, 11:54 PM   #197
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hmmm, for very little money:

Elf style speakers (could be as easy as TB drivers, etc, $9 each...$2 for enclosures. Binding posts and internal wire will cost you more. call it $90

Panny XR series of recievers if still available (I found one for $300 USD right away)
cheap Panny dvd , $100

some kind of inexpensive poweed sub (not sure if the Pannies came/come with a high power sub out. If not a decent plate amp (available for as little as $40 on the internet). Any number of small subs (a pair of *" subs mounted in a cube of 12" and Isobaric loading... hm again, available rather inexpensively($25 for 2 GOLDWOOD GW-S650/4 ohms. put em in series and invert the phase of one of the drivers) and . As little as $100 fora dvd /audio setup disc...

somehow 3 5 1/4" 7th order bandpass that makes noise just doesn't seem like it would be in the same league..

No Bose bashing, just a different alternative that may represent better value.

How much do them thar Bose systems run?
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The new Bose acoustimass modules aren't of the BP variety. I'm pretty sure the lifestyle systems are a BP type, but not of the old seven order design.
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Old 8th July 2006, 06:11 AM   #199
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Bose has done some neat things in the past. My main complaint is that they are dated and they charge too much. WAY too much.

In the 80s and even the mid 90s, Bose might have been on top of things. For CD and VHS play back, it works pretty well.

The problem with Bose is, you simply have to move air to make big sound. Bose can't do that with small speakers and a tiny sub. Do they have 6' drivers in the sub?

I'm not sure why any DIY speaker builder would want to mess around with trying to make a bose clone. They are not that great. For the price, they are lousy. If R&D got half the money that advertizing got, they might acually be up to date in speaker technology.

Paradigm makes Bose sound like crap. If you can't build speakers, look in to Paradigm. They are probably the cheapest high end speakers you can get without going to the next level. Mono amps, and speakers that cost $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ each.
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Couldn't have put it better gvr4ever. Don't like to put companies down, but they really are behind the times. And the quality.....

Plastic speakers made in Mexico.........please.........

Mine lasted about three years before the sub started falling apart, but hey, I saw the light and ditched them.
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