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Old 4th February 2005, 01:33 PM   #1
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Default Seas Thor vs. Proac 2.5 Clone

I am considering building a speaker system and after having read quite a few discussions I am left with these two projects:

Seas Thor
ProAc 2.5 Clone

I mosly listen to Jazz, Pop, Rock + some classical. The room is quite large, about 55 m2. I have a moderate 60W transistor amplifyer, but am also considering to upgrade this to a more powerful power amp.

I know that the Thor is quite a bit more expensive, but due to the size of the room, should I go for the TMT Thor instead of the smaller ProAc?

Thanks for input!
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Old 4th February 2005, 11:37 PM   #2
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Hi,

The tradeoff for great bass of the ProAc Response 2.5 and clone is the speaker's relatively low sensitivity.

I have my ProAc clones in a medium-large 6x9(54m^2)x2.7m living room, which opens into a kitchen. I use 90Wx2 which is loud enough for many people, but it does not reach lifelike/live levels without. When pushed hard is sounds constrained or compressed. A single 7" woofer can only do so much.

I much prefer my ProAclone in our smaller formal dining room. (~30m^2)

Based on higher sensitivity and power handling alone, I would recommend the Thor for larger rooms. I have not heard the Thor, but fortunately, they are great on almost all accounts.
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Old 5th February 2005, 02:02 AM   #3
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Hi thomap,
Hi tktran

I found someone who use Seas Thor. He told me that Thor has a great sound. It has natural, detail bass and could go deep as he want but slightly lean. I'm trying to set schedule to visit him and I will brough Pink Floy, The Eagles, and some fusion jazz CDs to test the Thor. I'll post my review after that.

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Old 5th February 2005, 08:02 AM   #4
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but slightly lean.
Alot of that would probably go away if the enclosure was restored to its originally designed size.... Joe reduced the box by a 1/3 in actual implementation.

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Old 5th February 2005, 08:57 AM   #5
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Alot of that would probably go away if the enclosure was restored to its originally designed size.... Joe reduced the box by a 1/3 in actual implementation.

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Hi Dave,
Where can I get a corrected plan?

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Old 5th February 2005, 09:13 AM   #6
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Where can I get a corrected plan?
I haven't seen one... basically you increase the cross-section by the appropriate amount... i'd have to go back to the audioXpress article and see if by a 1.3 i mean increase by 33% (my 1st guess) or by 50%. You'd also have to deal with redoing the dimensions at the fold.

You'd be even better off to just optimize a line using Martin king's software... i'm also of the opion (completely unfounded on anything but my experienced conjecture) that the drivers would be better in a 2.5 way with the 0.5 driver mounted push-push wrt to the midbass that reache sup to the tweeter. Some rework of the XO would be required thou.

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Old 10th February 2005, 12:43 PM   #7
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I am trying to make the same decision so will appreciate any comments on the forum. I will be using an aragon preamp/amp or if part of my home theater a Harmon Kardon 70w receiver. Seems like SS amps might be a problem with the Proac.

Comments from you DIY'ers?

Thanks in advance
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Old 11th February 2005, 06:13 AM   #8
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I had listen to Seas Thor last weekend. The result is same as i mention above (lean bass). I think this speaker is good for acoustic music, vocal, not for pop, rock, orchrestra.

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I had listen to Seas Thor last weekend. The result is same as i mention above (lean bass). I think this speaker is good for acoustic music, vocal, not for pop, rock, orchrestra.

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This is similar to my experience too. I have the Thor, and in my opinion it is a great speaker, but as you said a bit "lean bass". Although, I'd really like to hear them in a bigger room then my living room (21 kvm), and place further away from the back wall then I can in my appartment. I think this would have given even better result in the "bass area".


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I'd really like to hear them in a bigger room then my living room
Hearing them in a bigger box would also be interesting.

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