Peerless XLS SUB/PR

griff · 10th June 2002, 07:02 AM

What do we think about this
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshow...=297-608&DID=7

coupled with this
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshow...=297-610&DID=7

Powered by this
http://www.adireaudio.com/diy/Amplifiers/HS500.htm

Im thinking an enclosure of about 2 cubic feet, to acheive a F3 of about 19, with a bit of internal bracing and foam dampening.

Any comments? Recommendations? Critisisms welcome (even on spelling)

Thatch_Ear · 10th June 2002, 09:15 AM

Hiya Griff,
The PRs seem like a good deal but the amps seem a bit expensive to me. A quality second hand integrated should work as well. ( the active cross is nice though) And I thought you had a Shiva. Thought the specs were a bit better on it and you would only have to buy one. Hear they are very good in a 2.2'cu sealed box.
Thatch

griff · 10th June 2002, 09:49 AM

Come on Thatch, we all know that one lonely Shiva is never enough.

I thought that i might be able to get away with the Parts Express 250 Watt, but too much is never enough, what do you think? Also, i can get this in Australia very easily, http://jaycarstore.webfactory.com.au...esults(S).html

I thought that the XLS combo was a very good price, and great performance from a small cabinet, makes a nice change from the ole' 142 litre's.

Edgar · 10th June 2002, 01:33 PM

Hello griff!

I think this is a nice combo. I'm considering the driver myself for a comming sub-project. I have listent to a sub with the 12" peerless and the HS500 in a 50 liter closed box and it sounded very god, deep, tight and dynamic. Have a look at this nowegian (only in norwegian

, but still..) site:
www.dynabel.no
It's a slow site so have patience...

I think the driver is also mentioned as a good chioce for a open baffle sub by Linkwitz (replacement woofer #3 in his dipole sub), some comments and measurements.
http://www.linkwitzlab.com/

About the HS500.. this looks to be a serious plate amp. Powerful PS (1KVA toroid), nice control options and no frills! Made in Netherlands I think. I think it's worth it's money.

Edgar

Andrew Steele · 10th June 2002, 04:49 PM

hey, dont forget WES components, Last time I called the PEERLESS 830500 XLS 12 was around AUS$250, and thats without the shipping import and customs from the US, not sure about the PR though, but I'm sure that would be a better price aswell, Ok, about the plate amp, this is the manufactures homepage here. http://www.hypex.nl/ it shows that they have an Australian Distributor, I checked them out a while ago, but the link supplied seems not to work now... but what I remember they were charging much !MUCH! higher prices than Adire was *sigh* u could ask the Hypex Electronics themselvs could you buy directly off them and see if you can get them for less. (remember we're 240V

)

Other than that, Good luck

Andrew

GlennME · 10th June 2002, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by griff
I thought that i might be able to get away with the Parts Express 250 Watt, but too much is never enough, what do you think?

G'day griff. You don't say where you plan to get the amplifier from, so don't forget; the U.S. has a 120 volt power system wheras Australia is 240 volts. It's okay to import speakers, but a plate amp bought from Parts Express, or any other U.S. source, isn't going to work here.

Glenn

Javaman · 10th June 2002, 10:52 PM

Griff

Did you check out the app notes?

http://www.partsexpress.com/pdf/xlsapp.pdf

They detail a tiny 20 l PR box that allegedly tops out at 105dB @ 25Hz. Hummm? I don't get anything close in any of my sims with a box that small.

Petter · 10th June 2002, 10:54 PM

There is always www.apexjr.com for relatively cheap amps + various assorted equipment. They cater for 240V ...

Petter

griff · 10th June 2002, 11:09 PM

I was able to get onto the GSO site (the Aus distributor of Hypex), and the HS500 is $1295. I have a mate in the US who is happy to bring anything that i would like down with him on his frequent returns, so if WES comes back and is more expensive, then thats how ill get the drivers. As for the amp, Jaycar have alot of new models, including this beast http://jaycarstore.webfactory.com.au...esults(S).html

Or even this http://www.apexjr.com/Apexsenior.htm it seems to have all the power i need and at a good price, how do they sound?

How do we all think that this would compare to my Shiva???

Thanks for all your replys

griff · 11th June 2002, 09:57 AM

The XLS 850300 is $259 at WES, but they cannot get the PR.

10th June 2002, 07:02 AM	#1
griff diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne	Peerless XLS SUB/PR What do we think about this http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshow...=297-608&DID=7 coupled with this http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshow...=297-610&DID=7 Powered by this http://www.adireaudio.com/diy/Amplifiers/HS500.htm Im thinking an enclosure of about 2 cubic feet, to acheive a F3 of about 19, with a bit of internal bracing and foam dampening. Any comments? Recommendations? Critisisms welcome (even on spelling) __________________ griff

10th June 2002, 09:15 AM	#2
Thatch_Ear diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Dallas,Tx	Hiya Griff, The PRs seem like a good deal but the amps seem a bit expensive to me. A quality second hand integrated should work as well. ( the active cross is nice though) And I thought you had a Shiva. Thought the specs were a bit better on it and you would only have to buy one. Hear they are very good in a 2.2'cu sealed box. Thatch __________________ Thatch

10th June 2002, 01:33 PM	#4
Edgar diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Norway, Florø	Hello griff! I think this is a nice combo. I'm considering the driver myself for a comming sub-project. I have listent to a sub with the 12" peerless and the HS500 in a 50 liter closed box and it sounded very god, deep, tight and dynamic. Have a look at this nowegian (only in norwegian, but still..) site: www.dynabel.no It's a slow site so have patience... I think the driver is also mentioned as a good chioce for a open baffle sub by Linkwitz (replacement woofer #3 in his dipole sub), some comments and measurements. http://www.linkwitzlab.com/ About the HS500.. this looks to be a serious plate amp. Powerful PS (1KVA toroid), nice control options and no frills! Made in Netherlands I think. I think it's worth it's money. Edgar

10th June 2002, 04:49 PM	#5
Andrew Steele diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London	WES hey, dont forget WES components, Last time I called the PEERLESS 830500 XLS 12 was around AUS$250, and thats without the shipping import and customs from the US, not sure about the PR though, but I'm sure that would be a better price aswell, Ok, about the plate amp, this is the manufactures homepage here. http://www.hypex.nl/ it shows that they have an Australian Distributor, I checked them out a while ago, but the link supplied seems not to work now... but what I remember they were charging much !MUCH! higher prices than Adire was sigh u could ask the Hypex Electronics themselvs could you buy directly off them and see if you can get them for less. (remember we're 240V ) Other than that, Good luck Andrew

10th June 2002, 11:09 PM	#9
griff diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne	I was able to get onto the GSO site (the Aus distributor of Hypex), and the HS500 is $1295. I have a mate in the US who is happy to bring anything that i would like down with him on his frequent returns, so if WES comes back and is more expensive, then thats how ill get the drivers. As for the amp, Jaycar have alot of new models, including this beast http://jaycarstore.webfactory.com.au...esults(S).html Or even this http://www.apexjr.com/Apexsenior.htm it seems to have all the power i need and at a good price, how do they sound? How do we all think that this would compare to my Shiva??? Thanks for all your replys __________________ griff


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10th June 2002, 09:49 AM	#3
griff diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne	Come on Thatch, we all know that one lonely Shiva is never enough. I thought that i might be able to get away with the Parts Express 250 Watt, but too much is never enough, what do you think? Also, i can get this in Australia very easily, http://jaycarstore.webfactory.com.au...esults(S).html I thought that the XLS combo was a very good price, and great performance from a small cabinet, makes a nice change from the ole' 142 litre's. __________________ griff

10th June 2002, 10:52 PM	#7
Javaman diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Virginia USA	Griff Did you check out the app notes? http://www.partsexpress.com/pdf/xlsapp.pdf They detail a tiny 20 l PR box that allegedly tops out at 105dB @ 25Hz. Hummm? I don't get anything close in any of my sims with a box that small.

10th June 2002, 10:54 PM	#8
Petter diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Scandinavia	There is always www.apexjr.com for relatively cheap amps + various assorted equipment. They cater for 240V ... Petter

11th June 2002, 09:57 AM	#10
griff diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne	The XLS 850300 is $259 at WES, but they cannot get the PR. __________________ griff

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