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Old 2nd August 2004, 02:28 AM   #1
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Default The ultimate midrange driver?

Community Professional M4 compression driver.

Has anyone tried one of these for home use?
Where can I get them and which horn would you use?

4 inch throat, 114 dB SPL 1W/1M -

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Old 2nd August 2004, 02:35 AM   #2
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Anything under 115 db is wasting your time
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Old 2nd August 2004, 04:10 AM   #3
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Default M4 specs

Here are the specs. A monster of a driver. I must have them, my pleads have been answered!

I think I will drive it with a 1W Class A amplifier!
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Old 2nd August 2004, 02:25 PM   #4
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One thing is very peculiar: They couple the convex side of the diaphragm to the horn throat.
The throat is usually coupled to the other side of the diaphragm for good reasons !

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Hmm, for HIFI use, a ~1.8kHz XO point is not where I want to put one regardless of all the consumer/DIY designs that put one in our most acute hearing BW.

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not quite as much low-end bandwidth but better distortion for a given freq.

http://www.bmspro.com/products/4591.html
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not quite as much low-end bandwidth but better distortion for a given freq.

http://www.bmspro.com/products/4591.html

I dunno, from glancing at the specs, no comparison I think. The M4 goes down an extra octave and the distortion figures are extremely low. They are given for 10% output and 100%. If I am reading this correctly this means at 20W and 200W program power, not 1W/1M as the BMS product. I draw from this that we got 114dB at 1W, therefore 131 dB at 1M for 20W with less than 1.5% second harmonic (at 1KHz!) and, well MUCH less third harmonic distortion, which would be the evil one here. It looks like less than 2% 3rd harm. distortion at 200W= 137 dB SPL! ..and it goes down to 300 Hz

I gather you would probably need a minimum of 8 high regular pro low midrange direct radiators to come even close to this performance in SPL and their combined distortion figure could not come even close.

******* awesome specs, but the thing could sound like a trashcan. Correct me please if I am wrong.
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I dunno, from glancing at the specs, no comparison I think. The M4 goes down an extra octave and the distortion figures are extremely low. They are given for 10% output and 100%. If I am reading this correctly this means at 20W and 200W program power, not 1W/1M as the BMS product. I draw from this that we got 114dB at 1W, therefore 131 dB at 1M for 20W with less than 1.5% second harmonic (at 1KHz!) and, well MUCH less third harmonic distortion, which would be the evil one here. It looks like less than 2% 3rd harm. distortion at 200W= 137 dB SPL! ..and it goes down to 300 Hz

I gather you would probably need a minimum of 8 high regular pro low midrange direct radiators to come even close to this performance in SPL and there combined distortion figure could not come even close.

******* awesome specs, but the thing could sound like a trashcan. Correct me please if I am wrong.
The BMS driver has a MUCH smoother response.
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Old 2nd August 2004, 11:23 PM   #10
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Are you speaking from experience, or are you looking at the charts?

I am having a hard time with these little smoothed charts, I need to get better glasses...

Don't get me wrong though, the BMS stuff looks as if it is VERY affordable!
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