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Old 18th June 2004, 04:13 PM   #1
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http://www.norh.com/products/pyramid/

Anyone heard this before? Any thoughts? I was unable to find any reviews or any detailed information not on their web site. I know speakers certainly have an element of 'taste' as far as sound goes and I'd rather not buy speakers for 500$ until I've heard them -- but these look really cool.

I was thinking about using two in my bedroom with a rotel rx-602 or marantz 2265B receiver.

Norh looks like such an interesting company... not sure what to make of them. Any thoughts?

Maybe I should go for it if I am allowed to ship them back for a refund if they don't out. I'm not sure this is an option.

Any thoughts appreciated Thanks.

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Old 19th June 2004, 11:37 PM   #2
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Well I emailed Norh and found out they aren't making the pyramids anymore. Oh well! I just purchased an audiophile 24/96 to replace my sblive and now I need to wait a little to afford new speakers. I may go back to my original plan of a kit, or building from scratch (For the first time) -- maybe using really cheap components just as a learning experience.

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Old 20th June 2004, 12:09 AM   #3
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I built a single full-ranger my first time. Still have the boxes too. I like engineering and design, so I build all of my stuff from scratch.

I noticed Sblive in your post, what is this audiophile 24/96 you speak of? I remember looking for audiophile cards for my PC and ran across Aopen's Tube motherboards, it was tempting, but I'm an Asus man and don't trust Aopen mobos.
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It's a good thing that they don't make those speakers anymore because you would have wasted $500 . 4 drivers angled at the ceiling at 45 degrees in 4 directions on each channel would have sounded terrible (probably why they don't make them anymore).
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Do you have any pictures / specs / whatever of this single full-ranger you made? I'm just curious Have been thinking about 2-way MTM or TM or 3-way TMW myself. Keep changing how much I feel I should be spending on it too. Reasonably speaking, the design is not going to be great (like I said, first time builder here -- ) so I shouldn't bother spending 500$+ on parts. I think it might be more fun to get cheap parts and experiment / mess up more! Maybe even try to copy the pyramids desing.

Anyway, regarding sound cards.... I toook at look at this Aopen Tube Motherboard and was a little skeptical. What I found on it from Aopen sounded more like a marketing gimick than anything, but I could be totally wrong on this. The fact that it's built into a motherboard biased me against it right away -- I hate built-in components like that because if I want to replace the motherboard, or if the motherboard dies (has happened to me before!), then there goes the sound card, video card, whatever else.

As far as what I did replacing the SbLive, I was using an SbLive 5.1 OEM with Linux (Mandrake 9.2). I wanted something with RCA jacks instead (SbLive used 1/8th inch and I was using an adapter with that). Also wanted something that would work well with Linux. The audiophile 24/96 was not too expencive (199$ USD retail I think?) and looked like it would provide good clean analogue (and digital) out. I didn't want anything fancy features wise so the audiophile 24/96 was pretty much perfect for what I was looking for. I have it plugged into a rotel rx-602 (70s receiver) via some pretty good quality RCA interconnects I made recently. Compared with the SB live, I find the sound is clearer (but did not do a side-by-side comparison and am probably biased by the fact that I just spent this money...). It definetely does have less noise though --turning the receiver up all the way with nothing playing and I can hear a very very faint hiss (and this is probably coming from the cables).

Oh and it worked beautifully with linux too. Pretty much plug in and it it was ready.

Since I don't have a cd player or turntable or anything like that, and my computer is my main music putting out device, a reasonable sound card was important. I am starting to really hear the difference between a good quality Mp3 or file encoded with lossless compression vs a lower bitrate / poorly encoded file.

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=...3fa8b83343bfb8 for the audiophile 24/96 page/specs.

Let me know how it goes

Mike.


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I built a single full-ranger my first time. Still have the boxes too. I like engineering and design, so I build all of my stuff from scratch.

I noticed Sblive in your post, what is this audiophile 24/96 you speak of? I remember looking for audiophile cards for my PC and ran across Aopen's Tube motherboards, it was tempting, but I'm an Asus man and don't trust Aopen mobos.
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Perhaps...

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It's a good thing that they don't make those speakers anymore because you would have wasted $500 . 4 drivers angled at the ceiling at 45 degrees in 4 directions on each channel would have sounded terrible (probably why they don't make them anymore).
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I know that this is far from scientific and a stretch from what I would do now... but, I'll give you the dimensions of the speakers that I built and you can just throw whatever in there. It was initally designed for one of those 4" full-rangers from Radioshack, I ended up buying a Road Gear driver from Wal-mart instead. It is of lesser quality and such, but it puts out decent sound for what you'd pay. I think I paid a total of 40 bucks including tremclad. Just re-post to this thread asking for the dimensions some time soon. i.e., 1-day.
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I know that this is far from scientific and a stretch from what I would do now... but, I'll give you the dimensions of the speakers that I built and you can just throw whatever in there. It was initally designed for one of those 4" full-rangers from Radioshack, I ended up buying a Road Gear driver from Wal-mart instead. It is of lesser quality and such, but it puts out decent sound for what you'd pay. I think I paid a total of 40 bucks including tremclad. Just re-post to this thread asking for the dimensions some time soon. i.e., 1-day.
Hmm.. thanks but no thanks I'm out of money at the moment (maybe that's a good reason to take you up on your offer?)-- but i'm afraid of being disapointed and discouraged by speakers not carefully designed and built. I am hoping to have something better than the PSB (alphas?) I am currently using... probably will get a kit or follow plans. Not sure yet. Anyway, when the money comes in, I'll rethink this out.

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Old 28th June 2004, 05:19 PM   #9
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Ahhh, good call. Didn't know that you wanted to out do some decent speakers. Good luck!
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