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I serached, came up with different methods of cutting circles. However Im going to invest in a router. I know very little about routers. What is a plunge router and is there another type of router? I build a speaker maybe once every 2 months, so I'm into it but not *that* into it.
Can anybody recommend a specific brand/model? I will do cutouts of everything from 2 inch ports to 18" (or larger) subwoofers. I also would like to be able to make those nice edges instead of using the damn finishing sander. I have a Rotozip circle cutter but it doesnt work that well. Further, can you dado cut with routers? Im about to hit Lowes then Home Depot to check prices and to check out if they have 18mm baltic birch. Labhorn subs here we come! |
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Eugene, OR
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The Jasper circle jig is nice for speaker cutouts.
You can dado with a router, a guide and the right bit. A plunge router is nice to have, so is a lot of horsepower. I have a Porter Cable plunge router and am quite happy with it - expensive though at about $400. The salesman at Lowes will be glad to tell you all about plunge router benefits. |
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Seattle, WA
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You can usually find Porter Cable 690s with plunge attachments for about $200. It works fine for occasional speaker building. I've had mine for a while now and have no regrets.
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Chatham, England
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Definately go for a plunge router, in fact as an aside, it seems like the US is the only market where they are not standard, it's just about impossible to buy a non plunge router anywhere else.
Good makes are DeWalt, Porter Cable, Hitachi, Bosch, and Makita, buy the most powerful one you can afford, with at least a 1/4 inch collet, 1/2 is better, but has a price premium, and unless you intend to use it for really heavy cuts like kitchen worktops is probably overpowered. As well as a decent DeWalt, I also have a cheap £20 job that is left loaded with a 1/2 inch rounding over bit, saving time changing tools.
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diyAudio Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Chatham, England
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Oh, and you can make up for buying a relatively cheap router by getting the best possible bits you can afford. In fact, it is quite easy to spend the same price as a top end router just by buying half a dozen decent bits...
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: East Coast USA
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Here's a good article about routers you might want to read before you go shopping......
http://www.popularwoodworking.com/fe...uters.0803.pdf |
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Thanks for the replys. Im looking to spend the least amount of $ possible, so I've narrowed it down between 2 models. From Lowes the Skil 1825, its 8000-20k RPM variable I think 2 hp (or was it measured in amps?) , 1/4 and 1/2" bits and the Ryobi RE180PL which is also 1/2 and 1/4, but 15-23krpm, both $100. Looks like below this price range only does 1/4" and no variable speed. Im leanign towards the Ryobi cause the Home Depot is closer and it also has the soft start. AND i just read that article and its the editors choice! However looks like the Skil was the best value.
That article was great, and I read it after I came home from the store, and interestingly they reviewed everything I was looking at down to the model #. I do not have a table saw. I have a jig saw and a circular saw. Thanks guys. Hopefully with this and a good+ cheap source for baltic birch they will be on their way. |
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We, me and my dad use a DeWalt, DW615. We used an elu model before that and have for years, thing is it was dropped and the base of it bent a bit so was no longer at rightangles with the cutter. Everything else still worked perfectly with it though. The Dewalt is the same model as the elu but with a softstaft and speed control. These are both 1/4" devices and work beatifully. We also have a cheaper more powerful 1/2" router that is used for non perfect cut type jobs that require power.
With tools you get exactly what you pay for so dont skimp just to save a few pennies if you dont have to. An expensive router if looked after properly will last you years, cheaper ones might not, one £300-400 for years or several cheaper ones. Your choice.
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Some routers come with two bases that allow you to have a fix base and a plunge router. Porter Cable, Bosch and Makita make these types of dual base packages.
The reason so many people buy fixed based routers is for the low center of gravity. If your routing on a jig and it is narrow, you have better control with the fixed base. If you can only can buy one kind of router get a plunge or the package deal that has both bases. Best Routers in order Porter Cable... Best Selection of different types of routers Bosch, Best ergo and lower noise. Makita, Almost as good as a Bosch DeWalt, Nice older design Hitachi, Bearing can go out -------------------------------- Don't buy these Sears... They suck Skill Ryobi
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Hmmm, so dont buy skil or ryobi. Hmmm.
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