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Old 19th July 2018, 06:13 PM   #21
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Thanks LineSource

I will go active so it will make things a little less complicated (DSP+hypex)

I was thinking to go with woofer on side...all depending on final design (visual)...

Will take some time for simulations and will get back with some results
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Old 19th July 2018, 08:42 PM   #22
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Due to its unusally high BI^2/Re product in relation to cone area and displacement, XLS10 will give you the highest bass efficiency and extension from small cabinet, without doubt. It is beneficial to use it as DSP-equalized sealed sub-bass woofer extension and to pair it with amplifier with high output voltage swing capabilities. NC500MP is perfect match. In comparison to WO24P it will give more sheer low-bass stroke power and perceived 'speed' but at the expense of limited frequency range rather no higher than up to 120 Hz. WO24P is more a woofer than subwoofer. It requires huge cabinet in comparison. And also it is not a small driver itself. Having little more available displacement than capable 8-incher it is nearly as big as XLS10...

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Old 20th July 2018, 10:20 AM   #23
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so I should give up on RAAL and go with
XLS10 + Satori 16P + Satori Beryllium
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as I see 16P plays nice with Beryllium and it goes deep for nice overlap with XLS

will think for some time
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Old 20th July 2018, 11:27 AM   #24
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Yoke, first things first, as they say. Get to know useful excel based simulators from J.Bagby, Woofer Box and Circuit Designer, Response Modeler, Passive Crossover Designer, XSim by B.Waslo, find tracing program FPGraphTracer, a textual editor and invest the time to design a virtual loudspeaker first. You can design any LT, active, passive filters, EQ etc. You have got a lot of already good components, except midrange units.
Itís this realization of the enormity of the task which makes my brain scream, buy a kit by the very people who built the tools...
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Old 20th July 2018, 11:43 AM   #25
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Itís this realization of the enormity of the task which makes my brain scream, buy a kit by the very people who built the tools...
Where's the fun in that ?
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Old 20th July 2018, 05:14 PM   #26
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Itís this realization of the enormity of the task which makes my brain scream, buy a kit by the very people who built the tools...

Normally a very good advice for a beginner but the average DIYer desires so much more, to master the art of loudspeaker design, to be in control to decide what's more important etc.
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Old 23rd July 2018, 10:48 PM   #27
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The wider ribbon RAAL 70x40XR shows good measurements/distortion for ~2.5kHz crossovers. Using LR4@2.4kHz looks like a good match to the sealed box midrange Satori MR16P-4 which reaches -F3=92Hz ... a good target for a sealed woofer.

For comparison, the sealed box midwoofer Satori MW16P-4 reaches -F3=77Hz.
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Old 24th July 2018, 04:46 AM   #28
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The wider ribbon RAAL 70x40XR shows good measurements/distortion for ~2.5kHz crossovers. Using LR4@2.4kHz looks like a good match to the sealed box midrange Satori MR16P-4 which reaches -F3=92Hz ... a good target for a sealed woofer.

For comparison, the sealed box midwoofer Satori MW16P-4 reaches -F3=77Hz.
Thanks LS
I have problem with comunication with Raal...so it mide take some time...

For now will try SB berillyum, that will save me some money...


And I can borrow one mw16p...so will be abile to play around...

That was not "the plan" ... but, will do the trick
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Old 27th July 2018, 02:13 PM   #29
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HI!
I'm using the satori mw19 with hi-vi 1.3 planar tweeter and was wondering how does it do with the xls? i was going to try what i had on the shelf, a dayton rs265ho 4 ohm sub with passive or a 12'' css sdx with passive also. i did a passif xover with the mid and tweeter but but i have the option of going all dsp multi amp, what are the dsp around? i was looking for a dbx 360 because i,m all balanced but if there,s another alternative i,m open!!
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Old 29th July 2018, 05:16 PM   #30
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I'm useing this one (DSP)...
Hi-end DSP based multi-channel integrated Preamp/Crossover/DAC project

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