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Old 13th May 2018, 05:56 PM   #41
hugo stiglitz is offline hugo stiglitz  Germany
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@hugo stiglitz : I have seen this site before but here in Germany there is no listening room them, right? I always found the ATC models to lack a little bit in bass response. May be adding a sub or dual sub can fix this?
If you really think ATC SCM100 lack in bass you should invest in some ear-training
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Old 13th May 2018, 07:37 PM   #42
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I should have written lack of subbass, if you want to mix a song for a club on an ATC 100, I think you would over do the Bass Response. It is not only me that thinks so, I spoke to a lot of well repsected mixing engineers and most of them said the same.
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Old 13th May 2018, 08:11 PM   #43
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Which club has a PA that really reproduces something lower than 30Hz with significant levels?
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Old 13th May 2018, 08:27 PM   #44
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why lower than 30HZ??? from 30 up to 50 or 60HZ I can not do a translating mix on the ATCs. May be some can but for me it is the wrong speaker for that club sound mixes.
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Old 13th May 2018, 08:38 PM   #45
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Why 30Hz?
That's the lowest SCM100 are more or less capable to reproduce.

I guess it's not the speakers but the room that causes the translation issues.
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Old 13th May 2018, 09:07 PM   #46
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that could be because the room is the most important part of all, but like I said it is not only my opinion. for example a 808 Bassdrum on the ATCs is problem for me.
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Old 14th May 2018, 04:30 AM   #47
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Baffle edge diffraction generates distortion. Truncated pyramid cabinets similar to Avalon speakers can significantly reduce this edge distortion. attached examples

A 12" woofer like the SB34NRX75-6 designed for excellent transient response in a -F3=36Hz sealed 3.5-4cuft box volume can produce better sound quality than a ported alignment, but requires a larger box volume for the same -F3. DSP equalization is easier with a sealed woofer. A LinkwitzTransform filter can produce -F3=20Hz.

A 9" woofer like the Satori WO24P-8 can produce -F3=25Hz in a 3cuft ported box volume.
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Old 16th May 2018, 02:55 AM   #48
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Well reviewed horn tweeter + 8" mid + 12" ported woofer

Maximus-12 Very powerful 12" woofer for deep bass response down into the low 30hz range High end B&C woofer for great midrange response. Class leading DNA-450 compression driver extends response up to 20khz Easy to power 8 ohm speaker with 93db 2.83v/meter sensitivity. Quality name brand components. SEOS-10 waveguide gives you a larger 'sweet spot'. Will handle 700 watts and play over 120db. Designed to work best for 2 channel use and does not need a subwoofer.

Denovo Audio Maximus-12 Speaker Kit
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Old 16th May 2018, 08:53 AM   #49
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Thank you very much, that sounds like an interesting speaker. I would have to build the cabinet myself without the front panel right? The price is for one speaker, right?
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Old 16th May 2018, 06:25 PM   #50
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Don't think they have a flat pack for the Maximus but you could email them to be sure, they are very accomodating there. And yes, price is for one speaker.
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