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Old 3rd February 2018, 04:56 PM   #1
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My Small Thors will not fit well in the main living area as we have a small living room with large windows. My wife loves stereo but hates wires. So I am thinking about building a Baltic Birch console. Like the old fashion ones. My question is how do they sound? is there any imaging/ soundstage? I am not sure if full range drivers maybe a better fit. I have room under a bow window about 28" high and a corner about 4' on a side as the only two locations that may work. right now I have a pair of superzeros a foot apart and a class d sure amp to hear the tv. imaging leaves a lot to be desired. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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Old 3rd February 2018, 05:46 PM   #2
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I can remember a Silvertone console my folks had back in the late 60s, the overall length of which was just under 6ft - wide enough to give some measure of stereo separation , and the speaker compartment sections were large enough to accommodate 10" woofers, so the bass and overall volume was sufficient for our needs.


The largest issue I could foresee is that they are generally low enough in height that the drivers will be placed well below what many of us consider optimal these days. but that could likely be mitigated somewhat by tilting the boxes upward between 10-15degress behind an acoustically transparent fabric grille, and lining the inside and top panels of the larger speaker enclosure section with thick absorbent material to cut down on very early reflections
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Old 3rd February 2018, 08:58 PM   #3
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Thank you Chrisb. I am sure there is a reason they are a niche market product now. My wife is looking at 300.00 lofi all in ones. about 4 ft wide is the only option. Thank you
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Do you mean 4' is all the width you have to work with? I have a 42" Fisher console from the sixties that has 10" LF drivers in it, not original, and modded minimus 7s on the wall just above our flat screen, though those will be replaced with Pluvia 7s sometime soon. Not a sit and listen to music arrangement, but it could be. I elected not to mount the mid/hi in the console, mostly because the baffles angle out to each side at about 15 degrees plus the low position vertically. I think it was Snell who had a model with the tweeter right down at the floor, with a little ramp which was meant to cure the early floor reflection challenge of that setup. Never tried it, but they weren't known for stupidity.
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Don't give up too easily. Give us a drawing of the room.
We'll figure out a couple choices at least, between us all.
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Old 4th February 2018, 04:07 AM   #6
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My Small Thors will not fit well in the main living area as we have a small living room with large windows. My wife loves stereo but hates wires. So I am thinking about building a Baltic Birch console. Like the old fashion ones. My question is how do they sound? is there any imaging/ soundstage? I am not sure if full range drivers maybe a better fit. I have room under a bow window about 28" high and a corner about 4' on a side as the only two locations that may work. right now I have a pair of superzeros a foot apart and a class d sure amp to hear the tv. imaging leaves a lot to be desired. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks

Ben
Your wife loves stereo but hates wires. Therefore, build a powered speaker and power it off batteries. You could stream to it using Bluetooth or WiFI.

I have a bunch of these and I love them. You can power them off of a pair of 12V batteries, or a bank of 20 AA batteries.

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Old 4th February 2018, 08:26 AM   #7
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Something interesting could be based on the JBL Paragon .
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Old 4th February 2018, 12:58 PM   #8
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thank you all very much. Some very good ideas. That paragon is quite amazing. and the wireless battery power speakers are a great idea.

We found a philips console that is 47" long that may work it is a 3 hour drive to get but may be worth it. Maybe mount the woofers in the cabinet and let the tweeters and mids sit proud on top to Phivates point with the wires coming out of the bottom into the console.

I will put together a drawing of the room

I spent some time listening to the Thors last night and I cannot thank this community enough for all the help on the small thor project. I still expect the artist to be in the room when I open my eyes. I would have a hard time taking them apart to use the drivers but I could if i could even get close to that sound in the main area of the house.

thanks again.

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Old 4th February 2018, 01:37 PM   #9
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Just a correction it is a philco not a phillips
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Old 5th February 2018, 05:49 PM   #10
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Here is a bad drawing of the living room the small wall in front of the stairs is about 40" tall. The couch and chair must remain where they are. The view from the bay window in that direction is fabulous and the other direction is not as pleasing.
does anyone know about the ford philco or GE electronics of the late 1960's. The console would solve most of the problems the size and style will work in the tv corner. 4 ft of separation between the speakers may even get some imaging.

I am not against building a new one either. solid baltic birch construction with full range speakers class d amp maybe the better alternative.

Or I could modify an existing console and hook up all the stuff I should have sold long ago but could not bring myself to sell. I have a pretty good tuner from the 70s a dual 510 turntable an old maranz 1060 and a couple of AR 10s and have a late midcentury midfi miracle console.
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