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Thank you for the advice. What I am looking with this idea is to build a pair of bookshelf speakers that sound better that what I own now. I really don't need speakers, so building cheap ones isn't what I am looking for. I have owned many entry level speakers such as B&W, Monitor Audio (still keep them) Paradigm, Epos, Mirage, Boston Acoustic, etc. However, they are entry level. I have never owned Dynaudio, Proac, Usher, etc. I am probably wrong giving too much value to the drivers (aspiring Danish drivers such as Scan Speak, Vifa, Peerles, etc) and more elaborated crossovers. I still don't know if the drivers play the biggest role or it is the enclosure, crossover, and tuning. In a few words, expending money buying top drivers don't offer any security the speakers will sound good, at least, this is what I am understanding.
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If you are looking for bookshelf speakers, you should better buy off-the-shelf products. They are good and not expensive enough for you to DIY.
From my experience, the good drivers are important for bookshelf speakers. However, you must match the drivers, the crossover, the enclosure, not to mention the amplifier, so it would be troublesome if you don't have time to do it properly. |
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Yes, there are some exceptions...someone mentioned a powered monitor with an aluminum enclosure, so yes if you really want an aluminum speaker that might be an exception, but it an exception rather than the rule. Start here Speaker Bible If you read enough of that, you will likely come to the decision to build a proven design. One post did mention an important caveat, that building the cabinets can require space and tools. I have a garage and quite a few tools: table saw, table drill, router and router table, etc. Other than an aluminum enclosure, I can build a higher-quality and better looking cabinet than most high-end commercial speakers. Many proven designs can come with full kits (including "flat pack" cabinets) - check out Parts Express, Meniscus, DIY Sound Group, and I'm sure many others. |
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And at the end we exactly know why and how we've succeed. The commercial loudspeakers that sound good in the shops also very often don't sound good in the customer room, therfore they buy and resell a lot of loudspeakers and also lost a lot of time and a lot of money... until they've found the right loudpseakers for their room. They don't know why they succed at all. Life is made of that kind of choices, every one is criticable.
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But when there is no issue with skill and expertise, top speakers can only be made with top drivers. So make sure you know which designs to choose (definitely not your own). |
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Because dimension dictate maximal netto volume for the TMT and limit for example the number of drivers from which can be choosen. Also how are the speakers placed in the listening room ? |
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Peerless 830667 8" woofer Scanspeak Discovery 22/W8534600 8" woofer SB Acoustic SB 26ADC metal dome tweeter Peerless DA25BG08 metal dome tweeter Seas Prestige 22TAF/G metal dome tweeter I am open to build any combination using those listed. A two way sealed bookshelf. They are going to be listened in a 15' x 15' room and placed around 1 feet from a wall. My budget is around $600 for all. The wood work will be done by a good carpenter who has a shop nearby me. Thanks for all. Last edited by dvjorge; 26th December 2017 at 10:36 PM. |
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The answer is YES,YES YES.
Years ago I upgraded a pair of Kef 104 by simply cross bracing, glueing the bottom front panel that was not fixed to it could flap on heavy base notes & bi-amping the speakers. These speaker her cost over $8000 at the time I subsequently made a clone version of the 107 using a 10 & 12 in subwoofer / cabinet & a separate cabinet containing a paper cone mid and a (middle of the road) tweeter, this pair cost $1000 to make but easily outshone the 107's Next & I am still using these speaker I developed a further re-incarnation using 12 inch sub in a 6th Order Bypass cabinet. A Chinese pair of 5'" mid's and a Fostex tweeter, again further improvements. This design cost around $800 to put together. I had thought about selling these as a commercial design & a local Hi-Fi retailer auditioned them & estimated he could retail them for around $6000. Unfortunately the Chinese manufacture deleted the mid's from his catalog range & I could not get him to change his stance. The only area I plan to revise in the near future is the base speakers & cabinets, as base speaker have made the biggest advances over the last few years Remember in Hi-Fi the cost of manufacture to retail price is normally 10x & can be with boutique brands as much as 100x. Cheers Last edited by gigigirl; 27th December 2017 at 12:12 AM. Reason: added more info |
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