do speaker grills effect sound

busterno1 · 15th March 2004, 01:46 AM

Can someone tell me if speaker grills effect the sound coming from speakers ? Thanks

promitheus · 15th March 2004, 01:49 AM

It depends really on the cloth that is used but I think that the highs sound always better without the dust grills.

BobEllis · 15th March 2004, 02:12 AM

My experience is similar to Pro's - a grill close to the tweeter affects sound more than further. I put my latest on 2-1/2" standoffs. Not much effect but sill noticeably duller than clean.

If you have little ones around or a party it is nice to be able to protect your tweeters, but for "serious" listening, go naked.

michael · 15th March 2004, 02:38 AM

Do not stress over the grills, i have never noticed the difference in sound, thoug for critical listening i remove them, i only put the grills on when i go out to stop others from pushing on the cones etc.
when building a grill though try to use as little materials as possible, try to make it as transperant as possible(im talking about the frame still, not the cloth)

planet10 · 15th March 2004, 06:52 AM

Vry often it is not the grill cloth that is a problem, but the grill cloth frame.

dave

ashok · 15th March 2004, 08:12 AM

Like Dave said, The frame is often more of a problem than the grille cloth.

The general rule is that if you are listening seriously and no chances of anyone poking the cone in , remove the grille.
It makes a bigger difference than you might expect. Try it out sometime.

Cheers,
Ashok.

lucpes · 15th March 2004, 09:23 AM

If there is some distance from the tweeter to the grille frame then the grille it will affect its dispersion, not too much in the close field but in the far field. Using some type of soft material to control baffle dispersion/reflections around the tweeter is a good idea & will make this difference less noticeable; it also depends on the toe-in of the speakers.

The general consensus is to leave them off if you can, or at least test it by having someone removing the grills while you have a good listening from your 'sweet spot'.

tobio · 25th March 2004, 02:19 PM

HI
WITH GRILL YOU LOOSE DYNAMICS AND DETAILS WICH IS IMPORTANT IN MUSICAL MESSAGE
IT S LIKE TALKING WITH A HAND IN FRONT OF YOUR MOUTH
AND THIS IS REGARLESS WHAT TYPE OF GRILL FABRIC OR MATERIAL

TOBIO

planet10 · 25th March 2004, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tobio
WITH GRILL YOU...

Please unlock your Caps key... no need to shout.

dave

tktran · 25th March 2004, 11:13 PM

I think he was shouting with a grill cloth in front of his mouth.

Seriously, the difference between grill cloth and no grill is measurable. But it comes down to practicality- when friends/family are over I don't even take my grill cloths off to show my DIY speakers speakers- they're all to tempted to touch the drivers...

But when I'm listening on my own, I take off the grills. The difference (real or perceived) is worth the effort.

15th March 2004, 01:46 AM	#1
busterno1 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: brisbane queensland	do speaker grills effect sound Can someone tell me if speaker grills effect the sound coming from speakers ? Thanks

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planet10 frugal-phile(tm) diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III Blog Entries: 5	Vry often it is not the grill cloth that is a problem, but the grill cloth frame. dave __________________ community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com, frugal-phile.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi p10-hifi forum here at diyA

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ashok diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: 3RS	The frame Like Dave said, The frame is often more of a problem than the grille cloth. The general rule is that if you are listening seriously and no chances of anyone poking the cone in , remove the grille. It makes a bigger difference than you might expect. Try it out sometime. Cheers, Ashok. __________________ AM

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15th March 2004, 01:49 AM	#2
promitheus diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Germany	It depends really on the cloth that is used but I think that the highs sound always better without the dust grills.

15th March 2004, 02:12 AM	#3
BobEllis diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Upstate NY	My experience is similar to Pro's - a grill close to the tweeter affects sound more than further. I put my latest on 2-1/2" standoffs. Not much effect but sill noticeably duller than clean. If you have little ones around or a party it is nice to be able to protect your tweeters, but for "serious" listening, go naked.

15th March 2004, 02:38 AM	#4
michael diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Adelaide Hills	Do not stress over the grills, i have never noticed the difference in sound, thoug for critical listening i remove them, i only put the grills on when i go out to stop others from pushing on the cones etc. when building a grill though try to use as little materials as possible, try to make it as transperant as possible(im talking about the frame still, not the cloth)

15th March 2004, 09:23 AM	#7
lucpes diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Iasi	If there is some distance from the tweeter to the grille frame then the grille it will affect its dispersion, not too much in the close field but in the far field. Using some type of soft material to control baffle dispersion/reflections around the tweeter is a good idea & will make this difference less noticeable; it also depends on the toe-in of the speakers. The general consensus is to leave them off if you can, or at least test it by having someone removing the grills while you have a good listening from your 'sweet spot'.

25th March 2004, 02:19 PM	#8
tobio Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: montreal	HI WITH GRILL YOU LOOSE DYNAMICS AND DETAILS WICH IS IMPORTANT IN MUSICAL MESSAGE IT S LIKE TALKING WITH A HAND IN FRONT OF YOUR MOUTH AND THIS IS REGARLESS WHAT TYPE OF GRILL FABRIC OR MATERIAL TOBIO

25th March 2004, 11:13 PM	#10
tktran Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Perth	I think he was shouting with a grill cloth in front of his mouth. Seriously, the difference between grill cloth and no grill is measurable. But it comes down to practicality- when friends/family are over I don't even take my grill cloths off to show my DIY speakers speakers- they're all to tempted to touch the drivers... But when I'm listening on my own, I take off the grills. The difference (real or perceived) is worth the effort.

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