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Old 6th March 2004, 06:55 PM   #1
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Default Need some advice with monitors

Hey i wanna build a set of monitors, and ive been lookign around, im kinda ona slim budget, so cheaper is better, but if i can get a much better monitor for not to much extra thna ill definatly get it.

the two monitors ive found so far that i like best are:
http://home.hetnet.nl/~geenius/HATT-SE.html

http://www.partsexpress.com/projectshowcase/vd/vd.htm

anybody have any experience with either of these, or have any suggestions of rother monitors?

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Old 6th March 2004, 07:12 PM   #2
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Try www.madisound.com, click on kits.

I'm not very expert about speaker building or "monitors", but I was warned once by someone in the recording business that not everything called a "monitor" is really suitable for that purpose. The warning went on that many true monitors will not sound good in a home environment, especially nearfield monitors. If this is stuff you already know, I appologize. If not just don't be swayed by marketing phrases. As an aside, I've come to believe that "Reference" when applied to audio mostly means "add 25%+ to the price".

If it's news, I suggest you browse several pro-audio sites such as http://www.mkprofessional.com just to learn the vocabulary. For a variety of products, whether simply for purchase or for DIY I find a good strategy for making choices is to look quite a bit beyond my budget then work down scale. This gives me a better feel for what features are important and which not and provides a basis for balancing cost vs. desires.
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Just because "monitor" is in the name is essentially meaningless,
though is does imply some accuracy.

Both designs you mention are farfield, i.e. standard stereo speakers.

You need to be clear about nearfield monitoring and farfield
monitoring, for farfield you just need accurate stereo speakers.

Nearfield is different and most good farfield designs won't work.

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Old 6th March 2004, 07:28 PM   #4
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i was under the impression that monitors were used ins studio's because of their un-enriched sound they play. the sound sounds how it's supposed to sound. they also should be good on pinpointing individual instruments, and allowing you to hear everything I particularly liek hearing individual instruments when im listening to music, so thats the main reason i am lookign at monitors.

any suggestions for [particualr kits, or any advice on the two i have fonf would be much appreciated

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Old 6th March 2004, 07:59 PM   #5
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yes and no.

For example studio monitors can be designed for levels far
in excess of normal home levels, because source distortion
is much easier to hear at elevated levels.

For a home /amateur studio such issues are a nicety.

Confirm your listening distance and I'll give you some pointers.

Budget is obviously an issue here.

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Old 6th March 2004, 11:04 PM   #6
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sorry im kinda new to this. what do you mean when you say confirm your listening distance? Like the actual dimensions of the room they'll be in, nad where they'll be in it?

sorry if thats a dumb question
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Old 6th March 2004, 11:49 PM   #7
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no,

will you be using them on a desk you are sat at, at less than 1m
or in the more typical home stereo environment at 2m or more.

The budget level you are considering is still an issue.

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Old 7th March 2004, 12:00 AM   #8
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hey there If you are really on a budget check out the axxon elements for 20-50 bux each on sale at Zalytron. There is only one tweeter to chose from and make your pick of woofer.Then check the KRK v6,v8,v88 and youll se that theese el cheapo elements can be wery useful.Then you just have to go to the musicstore with a tapemeasure and figure out dimentions and a suitable xover.Just an idea.
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i will be using these in a normal home environment they should be probably 2 meters away from me.
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Old 7th March 2004, 11:54 AM   #10
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The Hatt-SE whilst a very fine speaker it does require serious
juice to drive it and maximum bass levels are by definition limited.

The PE monitor seems a reasonable enough design. The world
is almost your oyster with a 6.5"/1" combination, they are some
excellent neutral designs out there, (and some very bad ones !).

http://www.ellisaudio.com/1801.htm

Is one of the best kits you get.

This worth considering :

http://home.hetnet.nl/~geenius/Tempo.html

An 8"/1" reflex will increase maximum bass monitoring levels,
designs are thin on the ground, but on a budget this looks
quite good :

http://murphyblaster.com/content.php...ifa_Tower.html

Though you do have know how make a decent cabinet.

In the same vien, needing far more understanding of cabinets
than the information given, this is a budget possibility :

http://www.speakerbuilder.net/web_fi...a/lyramain.htm

Though I'd use somewhat offset mid/treble drivers.

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