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Old 7th April 2016, 01:53 PM   #1
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Default Convert Ariels to ME2s or start from scratch?

Many years ago I built a pair of Lynn Olsenís Ariel 6c transmission line speakers. I fed them with LR4 active crossovers and a 4-channel chip amp. I have just replaced these with a pair of Siegfried Linkwitzís excellent LX Minis, so I have a surplus pair of Ariels.

My teenage son wants a pair of speakers but the Ariels are way too big for his room. So Iím considering two options:

1. Covert the Ariels to ME2ís. This would simply require trimming the bottom and back off the Ariels, performing some internal surgery and fitting a new back and bottom. The advantage of this is I get to use the existing drivers, crossovers and front/side panels. The disadvantage is they will have even less bass than the Ariels, which I always felt lacked adequate bass.

2. Keeping the expensive Scan-Speak D2905/9500 tweeters, buying a pair of woofers and building a pair of 2-way speakers. I donít have the knowledge or time to design my own speakers. They donít need to be audiophile speakers- just ďgoodĒ. Can anyone suggest a proven 2-way design that would take my Scan-Speak tweeters?

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Old 7th April 2016, 06:38 PM   #2
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less bass:
ScanSpeak 15W/8530-K01 + D2905/9500
W1501/

more bass:
18W/8531G00 + ScanSpeak D2905/9500
SP95

even more bass:
Subwoofer-26W
26W-4558T00-II
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Old 7th April 2016, 10:06 PM   #3
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The Vifa midbass drivers are unobtanium now, and don't take too well to abuse from high-powered transistor amplifiers (college dorm use, for example). Spread the word you have a working pair of Ariels, and I'd bet you'd find a good home for them. They're designed for valve-amplifier fanatics, and there must be some in Oz.

I'd strongly suggest designing the teenage son's new speakers around his tastes in music and his choice of amplification. The Ariels mimic the classic Quad ESL57's, which I fell in love with way back in the early Sixties. But that's a really offbeat fetish these days, similar in some way to the Lowther thing, but maybe even narrower in appeal.
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Old 7th April 2016, 10:40 PM   #4
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piffpaff,
Brilliant! Exactly what I was after. I'll have a closer look at those links after work tonight.

Hi Lynn,
sorry for misspelling your surname. I hadn't thought of trying to sell the Ariels. I'll look into doing that.

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Old 18th May 2016, 02:15 AM   #5
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One thing worth adding is that you may not want the teenager's bedroom unit to have much in the way of bass.
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Old 18th May 2016, 09:05 AM   #6
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That's true!

I have decided to use the tweeters in a pair of Carl Richard's Intimates. His original design used the D2905-9500 tweeter with Scan Speak 15W/8530 K01 Revelator midwoofers in a ported 15L enclosure. The crossover is a no-capacitor design. I have gathered all the components. I hope to spray the enclosures this weekend.

I will start another thread about the build.
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Default Picking the bones

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I have decided to use the tweeters in a pair of Carl Richard's Intimates.
Well, there's a whole bunch of us interested in the Vifa P13s if you're interested in selling.
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Old 20th May 2016, 12:49 AM   #8
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Sure, I have no use for them. Wagneronline want $79.50 for new ones. I have no idea what they are worth used. They weigh 1.2kg each, so factor that in for postage. I would only be interested in selling them as pairs or a set of 4. Make me an offer?

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