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Old 20th February 2004, 10:52 AM   #1
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Default TQWT with 2 drivers - what to look out for?

I want to do a ML-TQWT with two 3" drivers in a MTM alignment. Line length will be 16". The distance between the 3" drivers is ~ 5". So its no "point source" anymore. Would a simulation with Martin Kings worksheets still give meaningful results?

How about the input values for the worksheet? Since the 3" are wired in parallel, I have to double Sd and Vad and halve Re. But I am not shure about Lvc, BxL and the Q-factors.

Thanks for some suggestions

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Old 20th February 2004, 06:30 PM   #2
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Martin addressed this in an article on his web site.
Two drivers in TQWT
You have the basics correct.
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Old 20th February 2004, 07:03 PM   #3
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Thanks Timn8ter,
should have looked at MJKs site in the first place. Seems Iīm getting too lazy.

But I am still not shure, if the distance between the drivers in such a short line could be an issue.
Anyway, I`ll get some ply tomorrow and give it a try

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Old 20th February 2004, 07:28 PM   #4
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The distance between the 3" drivers is ~ 5". So its no "point source" anymore.
I figured it would come up later. Is the 5" distance center to center? Why would you not make them 4" apart? Have you considered a bipole configuration?
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Old 20th February 2004, 07:47 PM   #5
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Sorry, the drivers are only 2" and the distance is 5" center to center.

Itīs a fixed system - an acoustically sound implementation of dīAppolitos theories. You see it in my first post. Obviously itīs only useable up from 100~200 Hz.

More details are here:
http://www.speakertrade.com/site/pro...roduct=Mmhe280
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Ah, I see. That's interesting. Part of the ML-TQWT theory is to place the driver at the point of the 3rd harmonic. I'm wondering if you use the center point between the two drivers for that.
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That is exactly what I will do. I look at the system as a "very narrow" 8" woofer with the tweeter in the center. The weekend will show,whether this is right.
Thanx for your help.

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Hi Rudolf
Are you going to use teh MHE 280 MK II "Mittelhochtoneinheit " in your ML TQWT with the Gradient ??
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Old 23rd February 2004, 09:33 PM   #9
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Are you going to use the MHE 280 in your ML TQWT with the Gradient?
The MHE 280 is doing nicely down to near 100 Hz. So it would be a waste (of both speakers) to combine them with the Gradients.
I will put the Mivocs on top of small dipole subwoofers. Itīs the most far out combination I could imagine for a small room - so I had to do it.

It will look somewhat like this (yes, itīs still another ML-TQWT - with a Fostex FF 85K):

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