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Old 1st November 2015, 11:19 PM   #1
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Default SEAS Exotic design.

Has anyone built ,heard or have an opinion about the SEAS design using their Exotic W8 and T35 drivers ?

http://www.seas.no/images/stories/ex...ppnote_mk2.pdf

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Old 2nd November 2015, 09:31 AM   #2
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Hi MJ,

A 2.000 for a pair of two way speakers that would need
a subwoofer too, is not what I would call a good value project.

A foam surround that would be good for decades ( how many?)
is an interesting claim. I would be curious to know how exactly did
they test it, so we know this is true.

You'd be better off with PA drivers.
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Old 2nd November 2015, 10:07 PM   #3
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Mjmacka,
You are on the right track. Some use drivers that are more musical with certain trends or mystic. Some use vintage drivers (usually low wattage and high quality), others prefer paper diaphragms or hyperbolic (NAWI) instead of conical. Others do the job with high sensitivity pro/PA drivers. Usually the size, model and brand will give you a good indicator.
One example is the rubber surround Satori MW16P 6" Egyptian Papyrus Cone Woofer.

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Old 2nd November 2015, 10:21 PM   #4
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A 2.000 for a pair of two way speakers that would need
a subwoofer too, is not what I would call a good value project.
I don't see where he asked for a good value project?
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Looks fine to me (other than that i am not a big fan of convential 2-ways). The Exotic drivers are really quite good (even if more expensive than most of us would spend).

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The cabinet design is quite pedestrian -- in detail i'd call it poor. I'd not use MDF (AFAIC MDF is not a suitable speaker building material). There is no cabinet bracing.

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Old 3rd November 2015, 10:32 PM   #6
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Thanks for the replies.
These drivers are expensive but I wouldnt mind paying if they provide something special. Still much less expensive than some similar commercial systems.
Boxes certainly look like they need some refinement.
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These drivers are expensive but I wouldnt mind paying if they provide something special.
I suspect the recognition as something special needs to come from within you. They are distinctive and no doubt attractive to some in an "olde worlde" way but a similarly priced competent 3 way will outperform them in almost every technical measure of sound quality. But that isn't what everybody wants.
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Maybe. The more complex XO a 3-way would need can wreck havoc… one of the reasons FRs are becoming popular and we see more and more 2-ways with XO below 500 Hz where they are less obnoxious.

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Old 5th November 2015, 01:05 AM   #9
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You ask a opinion, so...

I really appreciate the Seas speakers, especially the Next Serie.

- The Exotic Serie offers very good components, but very expensive too. And I'm not sure that the T35 is better than the Crescendo tweeter (T29CT002). In fact, I believe the T29 is much better, but for half the price.
You can find a review of the T35 on the Troel Gravesen's site. His opinion is that "The T35 does not sound anything different from the TW034 dome" (from Audax).

- The XO is very basic.

- Instructions for the box more than basic. They recommend bracing and damping... How?
And mounting those quality components in a MDF cabinet should be a pity.

- The curve of the treeble between 3khz and 12 khz is 5db higher. Must be pleasant and attractive for an half hour. But tiring and boring for a long session.

If you finally decide to build this kit, you'll find very good information here. For the bracing and the damping.
QUATTRO-mkII
Also a 40 liters box, and a 1+8" configuration.
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I heard these in Salk's 'Exotica' design:
Exotica 3 overview

I think the upper treble rolls off a little, or it's due to the large dome and how the room interacts. The mids were nice and easy without shout (in his design anyway), and had this vintage analog kind of sound.

I chalk this up to a flavor thing. Some like tubes, some like SS. This would be more of a tubey sounding driver setup. A good amount of warmth and ease where Jazz likes to live.

That said- I liked them, but the price of admission is rather steep.
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