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Old 28th January 2004, 07:54 PM   #1
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Default Suggestions on tube-friendly speakers?

Over the years I browsed some audio gatherings
looking for decent DESIGNS (electronics & speakers).
But, 9 out of 10 speakers on a (presumably High-End)
Show don't interest me - just sound...no music.
The speakers that DO sound OK are horn-loaded and
have strict controlled off-axis radiation patterns.
> Visaton Monitor890MkII, Amphion series and the like.

The former is nice looking, high efficient but too big
for my room.

My 300B-SE tube amp is only about 7W and now it
seems I must use my older (SE-transistor) AMP, buy
a modified Amphion speaker and start Bi-Amping.

Too bad. Anyone of you has the same problem finding
great sounding, affordable (DIY) speakers for GTA?
- Great Tube Amps

Anyone has experience with Amphion on low-power GTA?

Groet, Eric.
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Old 29th January 2004, 05:33 PM   #2
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I suggest you post on the Full Range Driver website. There are many members there that live in Europe and Asia where tube amps are very popular and they have many wonderful design ideas.
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Old 3rd February 2004, 11:56 PM   #3
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Thanks for the tip Tim(?) , I will have a decent look over there.
Have some experience with fullrange designs though.
Been listening to various Lowther/Fostex things via our own dutch
Lowther-guru Bert Doppenberg and others.
But, as mentioned before, still 9 out of 10 (fullrange or whatever)
don't communicate to my taste.

I have some Fostex horns lying around (PA stuff)
maybe there's a decent and cheap solution to my prob'.

Say, nice cat you have. (S)he's the inverse of my own pet.
Tica has all the whites where your cat is dark

Groet,

Eric.

P.S. Amps are of No-Overall-Feedback type which makes a good speaker match somewhat harder too (it seems)
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Old 4th February 2004, 10:43 AM   #4
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Default Klipsch ?

They have a very nice reference line with a horn tweeter.
It is a fairly new serie differrent to the older models.
I have the RF-3 myself. There not huge but do sound that way
I have been modifieing them quite a bit and am VERY hapy with them. They should work perfect with tubes.
Very powerfull and detailed and very good imaging (after mods)

They can let you hear ANY change you do to the source/amps/wiring.

I have been wondering about BD's horn with 150Hz cutoff. Have you heard those? What dont you like about them?

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Old 7th February 2004, 11:05 PM   #5
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Coolin haai,

I had some doubt about Bert's fronthorns mainly because of
the forwarded sound. If have heard some demo's but
choose NOT to buy those guys because:

1) Offensive looking toeters (don't know the eng. word)
2) Too bright in the higher-mid band
3) Poor off-axis frequency response
4) Getting more and more expensive (damn Lowther!)

- some things were off course VERY good too....

At the last session one person started demonstrating with a
different setup: Single-ended tubeamp, 1mm Ag speakercables
and SonusFaber Extrema speakers -> AAAHh!! MUSIC.

Klipsch.
Know these only from pictures and some reviews.
The past years I've been wondering If there WILL EVER BE
a speaker that has 'widening' pressure response with rising
frequency. So: low freq. are narrow and high freq. wide.
This is said by a (sound) engineer which I read some decade
ago (mr. Han - published in some dutch audio magazine).

I tell you all this because a large room with Basshorns is still
my idealistic favourit (and a must acording to Han). Two woofers
tend to focus and therefor give some 'drive' to lower notes.
If the Klipsch you mention work with a basshorn or occupy two
(or more -inline) woofers ... I am interested .

Say, dutchie, maybe you know a cheap address for iridium/
rhodium cinch plugs? Audio Home in Eindhoven discontinued
accessoires and can't give info on the importeur. Maybe VLS?

Groet,
Eric.
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Old 8th February 2004, 06:24 AM   #6
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If you want to build your own high sensitivity sound system
to be driven by a low powered tube amplifier, try this.

Tweeter - 13 ohms, 103db
http://www.wbvbeheer.nl/wbvportal/st...es/pdf62en.pdf

Midrange - 8 ohms, Audax PR170M0, PHL 1120, PHL 2520, PHL 3450.
(sensitivity 97db - 101db depending on which one).

www.phlaudio.com

Woofers - Best to bi-amp and run a high powered solid state amplifier
for low pass 300hz.

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Old 8th February 2004, 06:55 PM   #7
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Thumbs up tube friendly speakers

http://www.hammerdynamics.com/

big but tube friendly and making music
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Old 8th February 2004, 08:36 PM   #8
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Default two woofers

Yes they have drive in the bass. More than any home speaker i have ever heard.

Coolin
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Old 8th February 2004, 08:42 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by thylantyr
If you want to build your own high sensitivity sound system
to be driven by a low powered tube amplifier, try this.

Tweeter - 13 ohms, 103db
http://www.wbvbeheer.nl/wbvportal/st...es/pdf62en.pdf

Midrange - 8 ohms, Audax PR170M0, PHL 1120, PHL 2520, PHL 3450.
(sensitivity 97db - 101db depending on which one).

www.phlaudio.com

Woofers - Best to bi-amp and run a high powered solid state amplifier
for low pass 300hz.

how good would a 6 1/2" PHL fit int a 2 way speaker? Can it go low enough to work well without a sub?
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Old 9th February 2004, 02:39 PM   #10
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Default tube friendly loudspeaker

Hi Eric,

Regarding on your question, please look at my home page: www.aksiomahifi.com
There are some interesting and realy very good tube friendly loudspeakers systems. I am representative company for Slovenia teritory, but I will help you in any way if you wish or if you have more questions.
There are many very satysfied customers with Prometheus loudspeaker system, you could also visit builder and constructor, his web site is: www.bastanis.com
I have to sell one complet finished in wonderful enclosure asking promotion price 1500.00 €
Regard- Aksioma-Iztok Gligorevič
you could send me email also to: aksioma@siol.net
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