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Old 8th January 2015, 07:49 PM   #1
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I have an 8-way DSP crossover that I would like to put to use to make a "console" stereo. By this I mean one really wide boxy thing that would house crossover, amplification, and speakers. Dimensions might be something like 6+ feet wide, 2-3 feet deep, 3 feet tall. Signal would be sent via WiFi to the console so no other components will be contained within.

Do any modern examples of the "console stereo system" exist? I could not find any. Is there any reason why this is the case?

It seems that this arrangement could accommodate one or more large sub drivers, plus a midrange and tweeter. Something like the large boxy JBL Everest systems (http://hometheaterreview.com/jbl-pro...0-loudspeaker/) with two woofers and a large horn (per channel) might also be a possibility. Or perhaps a large horn loaded or transmission line for the woofer...

Thoughts?
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Old 8th January 2015, 08:07 PM   #2
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Do any modern examples of the "console stereo system" exist? I could not find any. Is there any reason why this is the case?
From the old advertisements, I see that from Mono to Stereo...so it must be at the end of the 50s ( old century ) that the concept was slowly forgotten.
Maybe because the brain recognizes that the two sources (the speakers+ boxes) linked together by the piece of furniture produce the famous muddy/indistinct sound. It follows then that also the Old Source- the turntable- suffered a lot from the vibrations induced.
For higher performance it was better to keep everything separate.
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Old 8th January 2015, 09:52 PM   #3
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Charlie,

You are looking at something like a modernized JBL Paragon.
The plans of this speaker can be found online, and modern drivers can probably be used in there.
It is a 3-way stereo loudspeaker, but does not go really deep.

Regarding stereo sound from a single loudspeakers here is an interesting thread: Stereophonic Sound from a Single Loudspeaker
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Old 8th January 2015, 10:04 PM   #4
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Here's a modern example, for $26k.

At the scale you're taliking, would it effectively just be a massive subwoofer with an integrated speaker at each of the two front top corners or sides? If so, you absolutely must style it like a massive ghetto blaster.
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Dimensions might be something like 6+ feet wide, 2-3 feet deep, 3 feet tall.
Thoughts?

Hi,

That is one huge fugly box, and nothing like any typical console,
which are dimensioned pretty much the same as sideboards.

I can't see the point, or the aesthetic appeal.

rgds, sreten.
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The console business lasted to well into the 1970's, but the quality level dropped precipitously after the mid 1960's. The console makers couldn't keep up with the quality or value offered by separate components, so at the end, consoles mostly ended up being something cheap your parents bought to replace the old one they had since the 1950's. But in their heyday, there were some real monsters being made; some reaching over 6 feet in width. Even Fisher got involved, offering some really nice stuff with powerful amps, well designed speakers, and high end (for the day) Garrard turntables. Stereo was not really a positive development for consoles, as the effect was obviously compromised compared with separates, given the poor placement of the speakers.
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Hi,

That is one huge fugly box, and nothing like any typical console,
which are dimensioned pretty much the same as sideboards.

I can't see the point, or the aesthetic appeal.

rgds, sreten.
I'll be the judge of that, you twit.

Do you ever post something nice???

Yeah I'd like to give some "regards" to you too.
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Old 9th January 2015, 12:20 AM   #8
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Charlie,

You are looking at something like a modernized JBL Paragon.
The plans of this speaker can be found online, and modern drivers can probably be used in there.
It is a 3-way stereo loudspeaker, but does not go really deep.

Regarding stereo sound from a single loudspeakers here is an interesting thread: Stereophonic Sound from a Single Loudspeaker
Thanks for the info. Something like the Paragon might work - I will look into that. I have a huge living space, so the size (while a concern to some others) is not really an issue.
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In another thread I found on this forum there was a link to the SALORA ORTOPERSPEKTA. This is an arrangement of a center speaker reproducing L+R plus two side speakers reproducing L-R and R-L. The figure is attached.

I could do this kind of thing with a center "console". This might work well since it no longer needs to create the entire stereo image itself (the console is monophonic). So it can be a subwoofer array plus mid and tweeter or the like. I have a nice pair of DIY dipole speakers that I use now, and these are already located near the sides of the room since I designed them to be widely separated. Adding the center console, I could switch the system to the ORTOPERSPEKTA reproduction mode or use the dipoles alone.
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Old 9th January 2015, 12:42 AM   #10
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I'll be the judge of that, you twit.
Hi,

Fair enough. Don't ask for thoughts if you don't want them.
(And don't presume there is some nastiness involved.)

I still can't see where your coming from, old mono monoliths
or old stereo consoles, or why modern consoles might be
relevant, though they exist as compact consoles, like :

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rgds, sreten.

2K. Clearly suited to a flat screen TV placed above if required.
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