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Old 14th March 2014, 05:14 PM   #1
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Default Peerless NE series anyone used them?

I'd be interested in your opinion on the platinum series (NE) by peerless.
looks great, but I've seen a few projects, and very few people who use them.
Why?
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Old 14th March 2014, 07:44 PM   #2
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One example is the NE95 vs. TC9FD-18-08 where the latter is ~1/4 the price.

Look up Aino Gradient for Juhazi's measurements on the NE95 (lots of them)
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Old 15th March 2014, 11:34 AM   #3
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Pete Schumacher has used some of them - have a search on Tech Talk (Parts express forum)
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They use neodymium magnets and general design and build quality is good/excellent, close to Scanspeak Revelator I guess. The cones are alu or stiff wood fiber depending on model and also "deepness" varies. Obviously they are not selling well, they are not cheap but lack prestige! I have experience of just the NE95.
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They use neodymium magnets and general design and build quality is good/excellent, close to Scanspeak Revelator I guess. The cones are alu or stiff wood fiber depending on model and also "deepness" varies. Obviously they are not selling well, they are not cheap but lack prestige! I have experience of just the NE95.
please explain me better, thank you
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Old 15th March 2014, 06:18 PM   #6
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The pricing on the NE series seems to be largely affected by the price of neo. The NE range was set to be introduced before the neo price hike in China. The neo price hike came, many drivers went up in price by 50% and then the NE series came out at a price point that made most people scratch their heads a little.

But what's there to explain? Juhazi has already covered it pretty well, neo magnets and excellent build quality with cast frames increases the price. This in turn makes people reluctant to spend when other drivers of known quantity exist.

I've been tempted to try the NE95 too, but have held off due to the price.
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Old 15th March 2014, 07:58 PM   #7
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If you live in europe its better value to buy the SS doped 5.5" revelator imo.
In the States the cheaper price of the Vifa makes more sense

Mind you, the NE95 is the smaller one so maybe its not a good comparison
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Default Distortion of NE85 and "the price of Neo"

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The pricing on the NE series seems to be largely affected by the price of neo.
It's sort of off-topic, but many folks have been duped into this "price of Neo" argument. My company buys NeFeB magnets by the metric ton for use in servo motors. The price doubled about 4 years ago, but then settled back down to about 1-1/2 of what it was historically. But these drivers use so little of the material that it's immaterial to the over all cost, probably $0.30 for the magnet in the NE95 (so an increase of ~ a dime). Someone in the chain is just making more profit using this as an excuse. (I have no problem with profit, it's about value provided. I just get bothered by the dishonesty.)

NE85 distortion 1W.GIF
NE85 Distortion- A clean tweeter!


More on topic, above is the distortion of an NE85W-04 (2-1/2") sample, measured nude (no baffle) at 2.83V. Extremely clean above 1200Hz, near the best I have measured. This test was done in 2011 before I knew how a baffle could affect the result. I found, usually, that speakers mounted in a solid baffle could have much lower distortion from controlling the frame. Perhaps if this test was run again in a baffle, the LF distortion would be much better, more like other Tympany units.

This little guy continued to do well when pushed hard...

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Old 15th March 2014, 10:07 PM   #9
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The neo mag drivers from Peerless that I looked at had significantly worse frequency response graphs than the 8 ohm TC9 or TG9. Plus, the ceramic magnets on the TG9 and TC9 have significantly more mass than a neo magnet, and would therefore dampen any resonances in the frame (basket) of the driver better, if that's an issue.
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It may be the case that neo isn't actually that expensive, but lots of drivers went up significantly in price when the neo inflation came about and, as far as I am aware, have yet to go back down. Clearly people are trying to make more profit somewhere.

Yes, your lower end distortion is screwed by there not being a baffle.
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