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Old 29th December 2003, 08:28 AM   #1
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Default TLb - has anyone else built it?

I built the TLb 2 years ago and I have still not heard a better speaker, no matter what the price!

As I have posted about this speaker over the years, has anyone else built it?

I have modded it by trying a Vifa X25, but the original is better, more emotion and better decay, the X25 was good, but just sounded flat.

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Old 29th December 2003, 09:28 PM   #2
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Here is a photo of my TLb's. For those not familiar with the design, its a bipolar with the same tweeter and woofa on the back of the speaker.

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Old 30th December 2003, 03:17 AM   #3
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Haven't built any to the spec, but quite a few inspired by...

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Old 30th December 2003, 03:25 AM   #4
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Hi Dave, any word from Ed?

I am trying to see if anyone else has built the TLb because I have bought a new house, photos on another post, and I may need some more output from the TLb's.

I was thinking of using 4 P13's per speaker by adding another one below each existing Woofer and keep the rest the same.

Any thoughts?
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You would have to double the line cross-section... you could also load one on each face...

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Old 30th December 2003, 04:34 AM   #6
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but would that make the column approximately 14" sq instead of a 7" sq for both configurations?

I like the idea of one on each face.

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Old 30th December 2003, 06:49 AM   #7
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but would that make the column approximately 14" sq instead of a 7" sq for both configurations?
10" on the side.

7 x 7 = 49
49*2 ~ 100
sqrt(100) =10

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Old 31st December 2003, 12:18 AM   #8
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Mark,

Ive been toying with building a pair after reading the construction article on T-Line for quite awhile. Do you find the bass response adequate for near field listening?

IMO, the speaker was extensively thought out and modifying it might not yield an equivelent quality speaker.

What you might do is try a sub. I was a mini-monitor/sub freak for 15 years (ADS, Braun, B&W, etc) and noticed a HUGE gain in output and transient response between using the speakers full range and then unburdening them of the LFs with a sub. You might find that a TL sub might integrate well and allow your TLb to gain some dbs. Try using someones HT sub and see if you gain enough extra output to fill the room.

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amt, I have a sub, a Phoenix Dipole using 2 12" Peerless drivers. They intergrate very well.

The TLb has very good, fast bass to about 80hz so they intergrate very well with the dipole and will play any type of music, including Rock and Techno.

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noticed a HUGE gain in output and transient response between using the speakers full range and then unburdening them of the LFs with a sub.
IMO, the biggest benefit of active woofers.

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