Zalytron Phenomenal 2 opinions

ultrachrome · 10th December 2003, 11:36 PM

Anyone build or listen to these? I found mention that Peter Daniel stuffed a pair in his wall.

I'm currently running a pair of Snell K-II's with an AKSA 55 or ST-70 with a Foreplay fed by an old Rotel 5-disc changer. I'd like a smoother top end and lower extension.

Or would I do better with a three-way? I don't want to really go above $1200.

Thanks

Peter Daniel · 10th December 2003, 11:52 PM

I stuffed them in a wall, but still didn't optimized crossover, so can't comment on a subject.

But since it's MTM, crossover freq has to be pretty low (3k or so). Raven can't go this low with a second order filter. And I'd rather wouldn't like to go any steeper than that. That's why I use the TM monitors curently and didn't do much with phenomenal yet. They are fine with movies though (no filter on midranges, single cap on a tweeter).

ultrachrome · 17th December 2003, 01:00 AM

If you were using active crossovers, would you still have the same concern about order?

The crossover freq you specify relates to off-axis response in MTMs? Would TMM make more sense for these drivers?

Peter Daniel · 17th December 2003, 02:25 AM

I think Raven 2 can take 3rd order filter at 3K. You might try going active with this setup. Maybe I'll try it too.

Ap · 17th December 2003, 03:48 AM

If you want a smoother top end and more extension then perhaps look at a better cd player?

LaMa · 17th December 2003, 07:28 AM

Indeed, I think also it's your cd-player

First upgrade the components which gives the best improvement.

ultrachrome · 18th December 2003, 05:06 AM

A new CD player is a parallel project. I'm still researching that one.

Speaker-wise, I want to take a quantum leap over what I have. I have an Adcom GFA-545II that I was going to put on subs, an AKSA 55 and a Dynaco ST-70 I am hot rodding for mid and up. I have a pair of Rod Elliot's crossover boards waiting to be stuffed but am also considering a Behringer unit.

I guess I'm drifting toward a three way design that I can build somewhat modularly, each driver in it's own cabinet and make it more or less phase coherent.

10th December 2003, 11:36 PM	#1
ultrachrome diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Puget Sound	Zalytron Phenomenal 2 opinions Anyone build or listen to these? I found mention that Peter Daniel stuffed a pair in his wall. I'm currently running a pair of Snell K-II's with an AKSA 55 or ST-70 with a Foreplay fed by an old Rotel 5-disc changer. I'd like a smoother top end and lower extension. Or would I do better with a three-way? I don't want to really go above $1200. Thanks

10th December 2003, 11:52 PM	#2
Peter Daniel diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada	I stuffed them in a wall, but still didn't optimized crossover, so can't comment on a subject. But since it's MTM, crossover freq has to be pretty low (3k or so). Raven can't go this low with a second order filter. And I'd rather wouldn't like to go any steeper than that. That's why I use the TM monitors curently and didn't do much with phenomenal yet. They are fine with movies though (no filter on midranges, single cap on a tweeter). __________________ www.audiosector.com “Do something really well. See how much time it takes. It might be a product, a work of art, who knows? Then give it away cheaply, just because you feel that it should not cost so much, even if it took a lot of time and expensive materials to make it.” - JC

17th December 2003, 02:25 AM	#4
Peter Daniel diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada	I think Raven 2 can take 3rd order filter at 3K. You might try going active with this setup. Maybe I'll try it too. __________________ www.audiosector.com “Do something really well. See how much time it takes. It might be a product, a work of art, who knows? Then give it away cheaply, just because you feel that it should not cost so much, even if it took a lot of time and expensive materials to make it.” - JC

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17th December 2003, 01:00 AM	#3
ultrachrome diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Puget Sound	If you were using active crossovers, would you still have the same concern about order? The crossover freq you specify relates to off-axis response in MTMs? Would TMM make more sense for these drivers?

17th December 2003, 03:48 AM	#5
Ap diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia	If you want a smoother top end and more extension then perhaps look at a better cd player?

17th December 2003, 07:28 AM	#6
LaMa diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NL	Indeed, I think also it's your cd-player First upgrade the components which gives the best improvement.

18th December 2003, 05:06 AM	#7
ultrachrome diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Puget Sound	A new CD player is a parallel project. I'm still researching that one. Speaker-wise, I want to take a quantum leap over what I have. I have an Adcom GFA-545II that I was going to put on subs, an AKSA 55 and a Dynaco ST-70 I am hot rodding for mid and up. I have a pair of Rod Elliot's crossover boards waiting to be stuffed but am also considering a Behringer unit. I guess I'm drifting toward a three way design that I can build somewhat modularly, each driver in it's own cabinet and make it more or less phase coherent.

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