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Old 27th July 2013, 02:08 PM   #51
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Hi, I have purchased the Audax HM130C0 (5.25) and are using them in a 3 way setup and they sound superb
I'll second that. I have it mated with the small AMT in a compact bookshelf. The HM130C0 vocal clarity is outstanding.

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Old 27th July 2013, 02:17 PM   #52
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Thanks very much, that sounds promising, then. Its looking like the HM130C0 may be ticking most of my boxes too..

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Old 27th July 2013, 02:25 PM   #53
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Hi Kev,

I have a pair of Audax HM170ZO drivers ( covering 80Hz to 1,800Hz with DEQX crossover and Eq) I used in a centre channel along with a Beyma TPL AMT tweeter, really lovely combination and I can highly recommend the Audax as great value for money.
I ran each Audax in 15 litres sealed volume, 18mm birch ply cabinets, asymmetric internal layout with damping compound on the walls & Twaron damping in the centre of each chamber.

However... http://www.phlaudio.com/datasheets/17_pdf/1660_1670.pdf
The PHL are gobsmackingly waaaay better as dedicated mid range covering 300Hz to 3,000 Hz.
There is so much more to life like midrange performance than dispersion and THD measurements.
The PHL 's will fill your room with a glorious midrange far beyond the reach of any of the drivers mentioned so far in this thread....But they cost a lot more!!
Good luck with whatever you choose.
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Old 27th July 2013, 02:55 PM   #54
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Many thanks Derek, thats reassuring for the Audax brand. I notice their website has been largely removed following a takeover, so hopefully they'll continue!

I've not considered PHL at all so far; did you find a supplier in the UK?

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Old 27th July 2013, 03:01 PM   #55
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So, I've been looking at the other drivers I can get; the Audax HM130Z0 5.25" looks most interesting - I hadn't realised the 'Z0' aerogel version is so different to the 'C0' carbon-fibre one that I'd short listed. The HM130Z0 easily gets me the SPL I want, has a low enough Fs and has at least a reasonable off axis performance for a 5.25". It seems to have a number of fans too, so I'm quite interested in this one - any thoughts?
Love the HM130Z0 for its size. It was the best small mid I had used/heard for about a dozen years. Today I'd go with the Scan Disco 10F instead, though. If the Audax were $20 and budget was a concern, I'd use it, but IMO the Disco is just a better driver. Better motor and better size for a 3-way (especially if you're not loading the tweeter in a waveguide).

As for some of the others on your list, in addition to using basically colored design, Morel can't seem to put together two cone drivers the same way. Unit-unit consistency is the worst of any of the major drive-unit makers by far. Their domes don't seem as abysmally constructed, but Morel for me is more of a "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me" kind of thing.
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Old 27th July 2013, 03:30 PM   #56
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Great many, thanks :-)

It looks like the ScanSpeak Discovery 10F is emerging as one of the clear favourites... So I've posted a thread on the 'Headroom' I was aiming for (here), as I suspect I may not need to achieve it (or all of it) within the driver's rated power. If so then thats where I'm perhaps going wrong with my belief in its 'umph'.

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Old 27th July 2013, 04:05 PM   #57
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Hi Kev,

I don't think PHL has UK distribution, not 100% sure though.
PHL in France only deal with OEM 's and Pro audio companies...PHL gear is over built to last a lifetime, he does not even reply to DIY guys!

Your best bet is to find a distributor, try these guys, they are as good as anyone else I think.

Haut-parleurs PHL Audio : Made in France !

You might be lucky and find a pair second hand, but I am always wary of overdriven units or drivers that have been affected by dampness.

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Old 27th July 2013, 05:08 PM   #58
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Thanks Derek, I'll have a look.

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Old 27th July 2013, 05:49 PM   #59
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Imo, you should pick out a tweeter before purchasing mids.
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Old 27th July 2013, 06:24 PM   #60
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Imo, you should pick out a tweeter before purchasing mids.
Oh no.. I can see the circle starting all over again! :-) I guess its chicken and egg really, but its very true that so far I've neglected the tweeter. Perhaps I should adopt an iterative approach; within my general aspirations, I've got a few good candidates for the bass, now thanks to this thread a few for the mid, and next will be the tweeter - but i won't actually choose any in isolation from the others.

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