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Old 17th April 2013, 03:40 AM   #1
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Default EXCEPTIONAL BASS... tight? slow? fast? I have to feel it ? what's your definition?

What to look for when the matter is bass? what is you definition of an exceptional bass reproduction? do I have to feel it? is it a pressure sensation? I have to hear it or feel it in my chest?

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What to look for when the matter is bass? what is you definition of an exceptional bass reproduction? do I have to feel it? is it a pressure sensation? I have to hear it or feel it in my chest?

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Old 17th April 2013, 07:38 AM   #3
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you know it when you hear it
snappy,tight ,powerfull and hits you in the chest

i think the key is dont try to go to low ,it spoils the sound and creates too much other problems with vibrations ,room nodes and such unless we are talking about ht

best bass i ever heard was in a large 2 way i built using an eminence beta 15 sealed in 40l using a mini dsp programed with an lt circuit and powererd by icepower modules run in btl mode

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My buddy has a room full of Aerials (7.2); the front 3 look like the CC5's (but speakers are all in aline). That system will thump you in the chest!
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Old 17th April 2013, 08:55 AM   #5
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i think the key is dont try to go to low ,it spoils the sound and creates too much other problems with vibrations ,room nodes and such unless we are talking about ht
In my opinion this statement is totally and utterly wrong.

I have four original 15" Tempests in a infinite baffle setup, which is flat to 20hz (using DRC) and has usable output at 10hz (you know it's there, but you can't hear it...freaky feeling). The effective Q is mostly irrelevant as the rolloff occurs below most music - it's reasonably flat through the audible range.

Yes, if I crank the bejesus out of it with a test tone at 15hz, the roof jumps up and down...

...But during normal listening the sound just opens up - it's effortless. It makes the focal stand mount speakers sound like monster super high end mega buck stuff.

IMO extended bass past the audible band (not a bass bump), is the foundation of hifi.

With four 15" long throw woofers, I have enough headroom to EQ in any desired bass response, within the limits set by the dips in the room.
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Old 17th April 2013, 11:14 AM   #6
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the guys in the lowered commodores with the big subs and doof doof music say the same thing as you mark
but when i hear it i call it rubbish

but each to there own i suppose

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If you think deep bass is rubbish then you haven't heard properly integrated subs. It takes a LOT of effort to get it right but once you're there you can't live without it.
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My definition of good bass is how it sound through high quality headphones.
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What to look for when the matter is bass? what is you definition of an exceptional bass reproduction? do I have to feel it? is it a pressure sensation? I have to hear it or feel it in my chest?
Good bass is when the bass sounds like a real instrument, not a dull thud in the bottom end of the music. The notes should have clear pitch and tone, and that tone should be consistent through the range of the instrument. An acoustic bass should sound like an acoustic bass, projecting the size of the instrument and the vibration of the wood. The pluck of the string should be integrated with the fundamental. You should hear the skin of the kick drum as well as feel the impact from it, and is should be distinct from . I want to hear all of what the bass is playing clearly enough that I could copy the bass line (if I could play bass).

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