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Old 8th February 2013, 09:16 AM   #11
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I don't think a really good sub should rattle the windows, just reproduce LVF when it is part of the music. Otherwise, you should not even hear the subs.
I agree, when rock music was recorded there was no such thing as subwoofers and therefor no need to go low. I guess with the advent of movie surround sound they developed such systems for movie theaters. I remember watching The Battle of Midway circa 1975/6 in London that had this earth shattering surround sound that shook the whole building.
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If a sub is capable of producing enough energy then windows will rattle. This has nothing to do with the quality of the sub, rather with the quality of the windows
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There is no place for subwoofers in hi-fi. They seem to be a fad from car nuts with distorting subs.
this is wrong , subwoofers are a good way to extend bass response of your system and they avoid the use of big cabinets , its up to you to mesure system response and find the best way to use it (them).

Some people are stupid and use subwoofers at extreme levels
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this is wrong , subwoofers are a good way to extend bass response of your system and they avoid the use of big cabinets , its up to you to mesure system response and find the best way to use it (them).

Some people are stupid and use subwoofers at extreme levels
Ok I'll concede the point
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If the listeneing room has not got lots of soft furnishing and a thick carpet, adding more than one loudspeaker that produces low frequencies adds to the listening problem because one experiences troughs and peaks of intensity as one moves around the room. That is caused by phasing errors from more than one sound source.
A rock band produces sub sonics. A bass drum produces sub sonics as do bass rigs. So, yes we do need a sub unit or a good imagination!
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If the listeneing room has not got lots of soft furnishing and a thick carpet, adding more than one loudspeaker that produces low frequencies adds to the listening problem because one experiences troughs and peaks of intensity as one moves around the room. That is caused by phasing errors from more than one sound source.
It's caused by room modes. "soft furnishing and a thick carpet" does nothing substantial at frequencies <100Hz.
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"Room Modes" are Phasing Errors.
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"Room Modes" are Phasing Errors.
In a very casual way, yes, but "phasing errors from more than one sound source" is misleading.
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If you put the Subs together, the phasing errors are gone. Therefore by definition ...
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together , what do you mean ?
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