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Old 23rd December 2012, 03:25 PM   #31
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you should take a look at this :
FLESHGOD APOCALYPSE - The Violation

must metal genres doesn't contain classical instruments or anything other than guitars,bass and drums + vocals , but there are lots of them that contain ! even nile sometimes use some other instruments as well
Nile apparently uses human bone flutes or did at some point... Whether or not folklore, it's a great tale.
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Old 23rd December 2012, 03:29 PM   #32
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you should take a look at this :
FLESHGOD APOCALYPSE - The Violation
Thanks for the link. Pretty cool.
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Old 23rd December 2012, 03:31 PM   #33
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Something like this:

http://profesional.beyma.com/ingles/pdf/15LX60V2.pdf

http://profesional.beyma.com/ingles/pdf/8P300Fe.pdf

http://profesional.beyma.com/pdf/CD10FeE.pdf

http://profesional.beyma.com/ingles/pdf/TD194.pdf

Would cost 130 + 56 + 36 + 30 =252 +vat here in the UK (bluearan.co.uk) but
$326 + $170 + $150 + $100 = $746 (462) (prices from usspeaker.com).

The UK prices seem a bargain, the US ones not so much. No idea what the Oz prices would be.
There seems to be quite a lot of good looking cheap drivers coming out recently from Beyma and Faital and may be others. Not sure how well the prices travel around the world though.
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Old 23rd December 2012, 03:35 PM   #34
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Go to a metal concert (take earplugs). Look at the speakers the sound is coming from. That should be enough of a hint . . .
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Old 23rd December 2012, 03:40 PM   #35
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Up your budget - get a Nao Note - Metal music is one of the more complex genres -

you need quick bass = active crossover

need clear mid bass = dipole mid bass

I got a Nao Note - totally no regrets - clear metal music and heavy rock no distortion even at low volumes
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Old 23rd December 2012, 03:43 PM   #36
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Go to a metal concert (take earplugs). Look at the speakers the sound is coming from. That should be enough of a hint . . .
Last time I looked it was the same ubiquitous line arrays where the sound of every other PA user comes from. Genre doesn't really matter any more, only the amount of cabs and amps varies a bit.
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Old 23rd December 2012, 06:21 PM   #37
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If it is very heavy metal you needs loads of bass.
Quite often heavy metal guitarist tune down their guitars to get lower notes and get a heavier sound.
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Old 23rd December 2012, 06:38 PM   #38
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If it is very heavy metal you needs loads of bass.
Quite often heavy metal guitarist tune down their guitars to get lower notes and get a heavier sound.
Yeah but guitars don't go that low even tuned down to C# (3 half notes down) as Black Sabbath and most doom and much death metal is. That's still only a 69.30Hz fundamental frequency. Almost no information at the fundamental anyways. Most is in harmonic distortion.
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Old 23rd December 2012, 07:50 PM   #39
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dont forget you will have phase issues at rolloff
low end roll off is no different from any other crossover point in that respect

another point is you will probably use vented BR tuning
and maybe even high Q tuning
but you know what happens when hitting it with notes below the tuning frequncy

I dont expect you would quit everything above 8000hz
even if that would make more sense

I guess it will be no surprice when I suggest a closed box design, maybe apperiodic to have some venting
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Old 23rd December 2012, 08:21 PM   #40
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Last time I looked it was the same ubiquitous line arrays where the sound of every other PA user comes from.
Ummm . . . yep . . . and what does that tell you (apart from that line arrays are replacing horn-and-reflex cabs almost everywhere)? Those line arrays are part of the sound. If you don't have them you don't have it.
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