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Old 23rd November 2012, 12:00 PM   #41
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Rightfully so.
And as I tried to point out, a little directivity in the highs is a good thing (no full omni required).
Why and how much? Doesn't it rather depend on the speaker/room interface?
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Old 24th November 2012, 12:34 PM   #42
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Sure, that depends on the speaker room/interface and hence cannot be quantified easily.
In my life sounding room it (the directionality introduced by the Vifa tweeter) makes a more focused phantom image without taking away the "omni character". In a room with a lower RT60 it would make less of a difference and in an anechoic chamber it would not matter at all.
The reason why I mentioned it here is to stop the belief "more omni is better" since it is not necessarily true.
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Old 24th November 2012, 03:34 PM   #43
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The reason why I mentioned it here is to stop the belief "more omni is better" since it is not necessarily true.
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Old 25th November 2012, 01:39 PM   #44
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Sure, that depends on the speaker room/interface and hence cannot be quantified easily.
In my life sounding room it (the directionality introduced by the Vifa tweeter) makes a more focused phantom image without taking away the "omni character". In a room with a lower RT60 it would make less of a difference and in an anechoic chamber it would not matter at all.
The reason why I mentioned it here is to stop the belief "more omni is better" since it is not necessarily true.
I'd say "less omni is better". The spacious presentation of omnis is the result of very specific reflections. It doesn't make any sense to me to "flood" the room with acoustic energy that has a detrimental effect on clarity and timbre. It also doesn't make sense to me to not being able to adjust the amount of spaciousness. Different rooms require different settings.
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Old 25th November 2012, 01:51 PM   #45
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It also doesn't make sense to me....
no, but omni isnt about making the perfect speaker either
its just different, and sounds different, and some like that like it or not
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Old 25th November 2012, 01:56 PM   #46
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I have a feeling I'm not going to like omni. I don't believ in hearing reflections add to the sound mentality. But I gotta satisfy my curiosity. And it'll be a good conversation piece.
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no, but omni isnt about making the perfect speaker either
its just different, and sounds different, and some like that like it or not
No, it's not just about "I like green better than blue". It's about making reproduction "better". Spaciousness is better. Sound reproduction should be able to provide it.
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Old 25th November 2012, 02:17 PM   #48
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I have a feeling I'm not going to like omni. I don't believ in hearing reflections add to the sound mentality. But I gotta satisfy my curiosity. And it'll be a good conversation piece.
You'll probably like the sense of realism reflections can add to reproduction but you probably won't like the lack of clarity. This depends on the recording/genre though.
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Old 25th November 2012, 03:27 PM   #49
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but you probably won't like the lack of clarity.
"Lack of clarity" ? ? ?

You must be judging based on some seriously inferior omni speakers. There is no shortage of "clarity" with the good omni's that I have heard . . . (and that would include PLUTO and several PLUTO derived "clones").
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You must be judging based on some seriously inferior omni speakers.
...or you haven't heard high/constant directivity speakers in a RFZ environment? What do you compare Plutos and dipoles to?
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