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Old 12th January 2013, 01:27 PM   #521
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Speakers with a subtle appearance will image better as well because they are less distracting.
I notice this with my desktop dipoles. Although they image amazingly...like a studio monitor, I know sound is coming from them, because they are so funky looking.

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Old 12th January 2013, 04:15 PM   #522
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But the bottom line is that if you are choosing a speaker based on appearance, you have a problem.
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Old 12th January 2013, 04:16 PM   #523
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I really like the "form meets function" philosophy in speaker design. Since they are going to take up a certain amount of real estate anyway, there's nothing wrong with making a statement at the same time!

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Old 12th January 2013, 04:49 PM   #524
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But the bottom line is that if you are choosing a speaker based on appearance, you have a problem.
Everyone does this. So I guess everyone has a problem.

..though this is not to say that it's the primary deciding factor.

The reality is that most high expense items are about fashion. (..a fair number of low expense items are as well.)
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Old 12th January 2013, 04:59 PM   #525
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Everyone does this. So I guess everyone has a problem.
Sad but often true. This is as stupid as picking a wine by (a nice) label.
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Old 12th January 2013, 06:13 PM   #526
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Sad but often true. This is as stupid as picking a wine by (a nice) label.
This is why I open several bottles in the store before picking one to go home with. (Tip: Find a spot in the store away from the service desk.)
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Old 12th January 2013, 06:55 PM   #527
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Sad but often true. This is as stupid as picking a wine by (a nice) label.
..well, it's only sad if you pick something decidedly inferior based on fashion.

Often it's less about an inferior pick, (or at least one that is substantially inferior), and more about just paying more for something that is at least the equal of the less aesthetically pleasing product.

For some it's an "identity" thing, particularly with respect to labels. While perhaps a sexist view, I've found that women seem to attach greater "value" to "identity" fashion.

Even within our DIY context - several "gravitate" toward Scan Speak as a name rather than simply the overall quality of that particular driver. It's not an absurd notion however that a more expensive product (like from Scan Speak) will tend to provide better quality. So for those that purchase more expensive wines based on the label - for the non-oenophile it could largely be a method to improve their odds at getting a better wine, rather than "identity".
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What I mean with sad is that people pick by the looks of something because they do not understand the underlying technical relations. And that is primarily unreleated to the price, although it is certainly another variable/decision contributor for those, who can afford it. As a result, people, who want to sell their garbage, add a certain price tag to it to suggest "quality".

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Even within our DIY context - several "gravitate" toward Scan Speak as a name rather than simply the overall quality of that particular driver. It's not an absurd notion however that a more expensive product (like from Scan Speak) will tend to provide better quality. So for those that purchase more expensive wines based on the label - for the non-oenophile it could largely be a method to improve their odds at getting a better wine, rather than "identity".
It is certainly one way of learning (to pay the dues). I for my part pick drivers based on "shift" and concept. So sometimes it is a ScanSpeak and other times it'll be a Seas or Vifa or whatever. And the same goes for wines. You have to have your share of experience.
Once you are able to "see through the product" (because you understand it) the price becomes secondary or at least a variable in favor of the goal/capability.
But I guess we're saying the same thing
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