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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: santa rosa
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I have searched the internet high and low for a solution to extend the life of foam surrounds. does anybody have any experience or ideas. I have an old pair of speakers and the surround is not bad yet but just by pushing on it i can feel it has less than one or two years left on it. I am in the navy and for the water tight doors, we use silicone to preserve the rubber around the edge. would that work possibly? or maybe another chemical.
p.s. what is a foam surround made out of? (duh, foam!) you know what i mean though.What are some other types of preventative maintenance you could perform to extend the life of any speaker. Ideas?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Nottingham, England
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I read somewhere (on a Tannoy or Lowther site) that silicone sealant diluted with mineral turps was effective but I haven't tried this. I think speakerbits sell something to preserve foam surrounds as well.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Michigan
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What about Armor All? The stuff is used to protect car dash boards from UV. I think it is silicone-based.
Vic |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Australia
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I have used silicone in the past to pre-empt foam suround failure in subs, it will change the sound slightly but I didn't notice much difference in subs.
The foam would presumably be petro-chemical based I'd assume. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: santa rosa
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never thought about using armor-all, hmmmmmm. I don't have and silicone but i could get some. I just wish i had some crappy foam to test it on first. my speakers aren't all that grand, but they are worth salvaging (sp?).
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diyAudio Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Michigan
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You can get silicone spray used to protect shoes from any shoe store.
Beware of any petroleum based solvents. They can attack the rubber and glue holding the surround.
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Silicone will not offer too much protection; the surround is generally unplasticized polyurethane. The good news is that foam surrounds are a snap to replace.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: USA, MN
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I put Armor All on the foam surrounds of some old speakers I have - when they were new and a couple times after. They went at the same time as everyone else who had that model - after ~13 years.
I was dreading replacing the foam, but it was easy. The sound didn't change that I can tell. I would be more hesitant about resurrounding midranges or woofers that get up to 1kHz+, as the surround mass and compliance are important and help define the response in the breakup region. You could try a very thin layer of silicone caulk on woofers when they are new to prevent oxidation. Silicone sprays made for boots and shoes usually are petroleum based and the solvents will likely attack the cone and/or the adhesives used in the speaker, not a good idea.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Switzerland
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A good friend of mine once used silicone rubber to repair a foam surround.
He dissoleved it slightly and applied it with a small paintbrush. Maybe one can apply a thin protective coating that way (Vas will decrease slightly and fs increase). I will see him today or tomorrow so I can ask him what solvent he used. But I think it was alcohol as fa as I remember. Regards Charles |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Spfld, OR
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I stopped using Armor All on the dash of my car because I heard that as it dries it can take moisture out of the material and cause it to crack. Then I heard from alot of people that baby oil is much safer than Armor All and more effective, because the dash does not lose moisture as it dries. So I used baby oil on a few foam surround speakers I have (and on my dash) and it seems to stay on them for good without hardly drying at all because there is not direct sunlight on them like in a car.
Just a suggestion. |
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