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Old 14th November 2012, 08:56 PM   #41
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lol. Man. I didnt think I was on that much of a ramble... insert "holey" where I said "window" and see if that helps.
Ill have to remember the stratum strati thing... lol. What are rock strata them:-)
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ta? Lol I mean a holey brace. My point being that holey window like braces work effectively, and ply or MDF arent as different in comparison to when theyre being used as panels, in their strongest plane. [b] Laminated ply designs are wasteful and have been criticised for using the material in the same plane.


no doubt that the trans-lam approach (not necessarily restricted to sheet goods, as evidenced by some recent "butcher block" fabrications) allows for functional shapes and aesthetic design features not possible with flat sheet goods, but even with the most efficient nesting CNC routing software, the cut yield is atrocious, nay, criminal I say - and then there's the assembly and finishing labor

window braces - cute Cal - think horizontal roof trusses
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but even with the most efficient nesting CNC routing software, the cut yield is atrocious, nay, criminal I say
Unless you make a fish wall that is.
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There's actually such a thing, not sure how I went that far off track though. It should have been obvious but...well you remember the 60's?
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hysterical... 60s really took their toll I gather. Holey braces, in England where the language is almost spoken, are worn out elastic trouser suspenders. What you call a window brace is a pillar over here.
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What you call a window brace is a pillar over here.
Really? A pillar here is the same as a post or column. A window brace is either the brackets that support a shelf on the outside of your window for a flower pot or A/C unit or in the case of a car, it's like that part in the link above.
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how'd we get onto double glazing systems?
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Really? A pillar here is the same as a post or column. A window brace is either the brackets that support a shelf on the outside of your window for a flower pot or A/C unit or in the case of a car, it's like that part in the link above.
to the best of my knowledge, since i dont drive, over here its a roof pillar, or A-pillar. Something of the like. Just like hood is bonnet. English is a weird language.
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how'd we get onto double glazing systems?
Quite. A conveniant diversion from my earlier post, which was quite salient, for once.

I.e. That holey braces in MDF or ply arent worth comparing. Elsewhere in box construction, the strength of ply is valuable.
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but even with the most efficient nesting CNC routing software, the cut yield is atrocious, nay, criminal I say
Anyone wanna guess what I'm building?

I'm doing a CNC setup with shelf bracing and yes, cut yield is atrocious (the circles were cutoffs from something else, so no waste there).

To get the most of the material I'm planning to make diffusors from the shelf brace cutouts, by simply stacking them and gluing them in hills and valleys. Not a Skyline but should be quite effective. The cutouts for the non-braced sections will be saved and re-cut into another translam enclosure shape, so I should wind up with somewhere around 50% overall material efficiency from the starting point of circles.
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