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Old 30th October 2012, 01:56 AM   #21
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I'm interested in Morel drivers, as it goes. People here slag them off for reasons I really don't understand.
I don't understand that either. On of the loveliest tower speakers I've heard (several times) is the Gershman Sonogram, which uses Morel drivers. Beautiful vocals!
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Old 30th October 2012, 07:13 AM   #22
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I like them alot too!
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Hey Steve...can I use resisters instead of the coils for testing?? No one locally carries inductors...I would have to order them in...thanks!!
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Old 30th October 2012, 01:31 PM   #24
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I like my morel's too I think that zaph has a lot to do with the bad rap because he said they were terrible, and I guess people just take his word for it. I had a discussion with him over the MW144's because his measurements were nothing like mine, couldn't possibly have been the same drivers, most likely the ones he tested were faulty/damaged.

for a different (but outdated) slant on morel drivers this from the web archive of the LDSG LDSG - Morel recommendations

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edit: and yes Pano, vocals are excelent!!!
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Totally agree...one of the best drivers for vocals!!
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Hey Steve...can I use resisters instead of the coils for testing?? No one locally carries inductors...I would have to order them in...thanks!!
Yup and no. You don't use a series resistor on a bass unit, it just kills the damping and gets hot. You could run the bass driver with no crossover components at all. Treble can run on a single, say, 4.7uF or bigger capacitor for now. I'd put a 10W wirewound of about 15 ohms across the tweeter though. Controls the Fs resonance a bit.

Some people like that sort of sound. Phase and tweeter polarity might work either way.
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I like my morel's too

for a different (but outdated) slant on morel drivers this from the web archive of the LDSG LDSG - Morel recommendations
Hi,

No distortion measurements, and Zaph's bugbear with both Morel and Dynaudio.
Its not a question of believing him, for what reason should I disbelieve him ?

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Hi sreten, I take everything with a grain of salt after measuring the same drivers and getting VERY different results. I'm talking about gross differences in T/S parameters, mine reasonably close to factory specs, his no where near them. If those measurements were suspect, then IMO all the measurements (for that driver) were suspect.

He doesn't have the MW144 measurements up any more, if he did I'd show you the differences

edit: if distortion performance is high on ones priority list then zaph's evaluations will have a lot more relevance, than if someone does not believe that distortion performance is a high priority IMO he will slam an otherwise excellent driver if it's distortion is anything but vanishingly good

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Hi,

If you have a problem with Zaph, fair enough, not my problem.

But I will say given the sheer number of drivers he's tested, and some do
meet near spec, intimating your testing is more accurate is very dubious.

Zaph is entitled to his opinions on distortion versus driver value, you can fix
response issues, you can't change distortion profiles, that your stuck with.

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