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clubsport911 3rd October 2012 06:51 AM

Looking for active bass equalisation - Any equivalents to "Golden Flutes" ?
 
I am considering active bass equalisation - the kind of device like the (now obsolete ?) Golden Flute. These are fitted between pre and power amplifiers with the specific aim of providing low frequency extension / boost.

I'm aware that these (Golden Flutes) are now out of production, but has anyone got any recommendations for similar devices I can obtain to achieve the same effect ?

Happy to DIY [to a certain extent] No effect above 100hz required (or even 60 to be honest !)

Thanks

rcw666 4th October 2012 05:55 AM

I have had a bit of a look on the net and can't find reference to the golden flute, exactly what did it purport to do?
rcw

clubsport911 4th October 2012 06:38 AM

The GF sits between pre and power amp and added a carefully engineered amount of low frequency equalisation. It did this with ( In theory) no effect to upper bass, midband or hf.

It was possible to adjust extension, curve and point of operation.

Interestingly, I only heard about these a few weeks back and found information pretty quickly !

In summary, it's a very high quality LF only tone control.

Draki 4th October 2012 07:11 AM

Maybe this: subwoofer equalizer, bass correction equalizer, bass boost

ashok 4th October 2012 07:40 AM

Allison seems to have had a similar device. It was called the Alison Electronic Subwoofer. I've heard one with an Allison speaker. Went quite low but didn't have 'slam' !
You could rig up a Linkwitz transform circuit.
Look here for the theory and the project and a spreadsheet for calculations.

ESP - The Linkwitz Transform Circuit
Linkwitz Transform Subwoofer Equaliser

ashok 4th October 2012 08:24 AM

Check this link for the Allison Equaliser . Scroll down .

http://www.roger-russell.com/equalizers/equalizers.htm

phase_accurate 4th October 2012 08:24 AM

The "Bassis" thing is actually something like the Linkwitz transform with adjustability via pots.
The main use of the LFT is closed boxes. There are of course other schemes as well like shelving filters, parametric EQ, Highpass filters with a hump etc.

The highpass for instance can be of advantage when protection from overexcursion is higher on your list than group-delay distortion. I once derived a circuit that did dynamically alter the height of the hump and the cutoff frequency.

Regards

Charles

weltersys 4th October 2012 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clubsport911 (Post 3189465)
The GF sits between pre and power amp and added a carefully engineered amount of low frequency equalisation. It did this with ( In theory) no effect to upper bass, midband or hf.

It was possible to adjust extension, curve and point of operation.

Interestingly, I only heard about these a few weeks back and found information pretty quickly !

In summary, it's a very high quality LF only tone control.

What you describe and far more can be done with the MiniDSP, or most any DSP (digital signal processing) unit.

By inserting the DSP in a tape loop available on most receivers, separate power amps for the bass are not needed to effect the change.

rcw666 4th October 2012 11:21 PM

Perhaps you can indicate what sort of a set up you have.

The difficulty with and equalization of this sort is that you can very quickly run out of cone excursion and amplifier power.

Just taking any old thing and boosting the bass to fix it doesn't work very well at all. rcw

clubsport911 5th October 2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Perhaps you can indicate what sort of a set up you have.

Sure... I have a 400W MF amps (40A current output continuous), MF Pre-amp and KEF 105/3's. The 105/3's are bandpass Coupled Cavity Designs and also were configured to work with and without the KEF KUBE 200 active equalisation.

I could search forever to find a KUBE 200 or perhaps take advantage of higher capability (lower cost ?) more modern electronics that have even less insertion loss. I definately do not want to touch the midband. On my system, it's great.

Thanks


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