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Old 5th October 2012, 11:42 PM   #71
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To give my own totally subjective answer.
Music should sound like music, not like a squabble of cats in a cage fighting over the last piece of fish.
Sometimes it doesn't have to be {"Perfect"}
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Moondog - how did you know what dinner sounds like at my house?
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Old 6th October 2012, 12:34 AM   #73
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Default Subjectivity vs science

The real question is what is possible according to the physics.

According to the mass market model the aim of any decent loudspeaker system is to make the experience of listening to the widest range of music enjoyable to the widest range of people.

Objectivity in the face of differing hearing acuity, differeing taste, differing materials?

Is this possible, or is the aim of the exercise to develop loudspeaker systems that respond to specific market segments. i.e. we develop Jazz speakers, Rock speakers, etc...

Which is the right approach?

Which does justice to the science itself?

Who amongst us believes a single solution addresses every need?

Maybe we should segment the market according to consumer needs.

What do you think is the honest answer to the problem?

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Old 6th October 2012, 12:44 AM   #74
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Moondog - how did you know what dinner sounds like at my house?
I have 3 kids LOL
Some things never change do they?
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i would vote on 4 , on my setup i like the mids to be a little recessed , some of my friends like the mids more forward , so i guess its really matter of taste.
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Only 1) is Hi-Fi. All the rest are you, the listener, taking control of the art - the equivalent of dying a Picasso painting from his "blue" period because you don't like blue.
Agree. Nr.1 is what I aim for.
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I haven't read the whole thread, only the first post.
But I think I'd say something like #3.

If I listen to let's say John Lee Hooker I want to be able to close my eyes and "dream" myself away imagining that I'm hearing him live. The same goes with all acoustic or live recordings. All other recordings should just sound good and dynamic so it's fun to listen.
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This question arose after reading a few EQ and directivity threads in the multiway forum.

How should music sound in my environment when reproduced through my stereo system?

1) How the mastering engineer intended it to sound.

2) How the voice(s)/instrument(s) sounds live in the environment targeted by the mastering engineer.

3) How the voice(s)/instrument(s) sounds live in an environment I prefer.

4) How I want it to sound.

Or supply your own answer. "It depends" is not allowed!
Reproduction of that which is impressed on the recordings is unfortunately the only real common point of departure that exists: everything else is based on the slippery slope of opinion.

"Making sound reproduction better than the recording" as an argument has never made sense and is actually based on the tautology, "I like it the way that I like it." I've learned that opinion does not make a good basis for furthering the state-of-the-art in any (engineering) endeavour. It's like art, music, and motion picture critics: I find that their opinions never categorically coincide with mine. Not much productive conversation exists beyond that point on those subjects.

Engineering sound reproduction systems, however, is a subject that includes the opportunity for standing on much more objective ground: I take that opportunity whenever presented.

My opinions on sound reproduction systems--like my taste in music, politics, religion, and food--I try to keep to myself in mixed company...like that found here.

YMMV.

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