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Old 1st October 2012, 10:41 AM   #251
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I still think a decent 3way is doable within budget.

I have no issues with large midrange drivers as I use Tannoy DCs myself but the midrange got a lot cleaner since I removed the bass from the my 12", especially at higher volumes.

Something like FaitalPro 15FH500, Beyma 8G40, BMS 4538 + RCF HF101 would come in at around £300 per speaker incl. VAT but excl. p+p.


PS: Since you said you'd move them out regularly I would add something like these to the boxes. Makes life a lot easier!
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Also somewhere earlier I said that the RCF horns are plastic but they are cast aluminium. Don't know where I got the plastic idea from, clearly a brainfart on my side.

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Old 1st October 2012, 04:16 PM   #252
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Thanks for the effort Charles Darwin. I'm afraid I'm rather disenchanted with the idea at the moment. From the discussion we've had I am rather more aware of the quality of drivers needed to achieve my somewhat OTT hopes.

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Old 1st October 2012, 04:27 PM   #253
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If the speaker actually measures as posted, the 15HF500 looks outstanding on paper. You could cross directly yo a horn with it. I am actually reaaly close to pulling the trigger. 416B is in my future, but $700 without delvery is tough when i am not sure if i like the sound yet. Time to sell some drivers. You could argue that this looks even better, assuming possible sub addtition. MAy not be needed with room gain.

http://www.usspeaker.com/faital%20pro%2012fh500-1.htm
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Old 1st October 2012, 04:57 PM   #254
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If you really need subs with them would depend somewhat on the music you're listening to. If it is mainly standard band stuff (ie neither electronic nor classical) it should suffice by itself as the lowest tone a band produces tends to be the open E string on an electric bass guitar which is 42Hz. Kick drums start about an octave higher than that.
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Old 1st October 2012, 06:18 PM   #255
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If the speaker actually measures as posted, the 15HF500 looks outstanding on paper.
During the years i“ve used Faital nothing has failed to live up to specs and measurements. I“ve not used 15FH500 that much but its smaller sibling 12Fh500 and i think theyre fantastic drivers, primarily, they allways sound good.

I would, thou, recomend a look at the 15FH510, the new ferit motor version.
Faital has“nt just stuck a ferit magnet in place of the neodym. Its a serious rework of the drivers and so far all the new ferit versions from Faital, in my ear, sound even better than the neodym models, they“re also quite a bit cheaper.

They have even better linearity and the same transientresponse but have a "darker" voice, not with loss of resolution or edge but just sounding larger or maybee fuller.

Not of great importance in domestic use but as i deliver all my speakers carying a 10year waranty, i“ve still not replaced or repaired any Faital driver.
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Old 1st October 2012, 06:24 PM   #256
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Excellent info. I had that driver bookmarked as well. Thank you.
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Old 1st October 2012, 06:38 PM   #257
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That gels very well with every comment on Faital drivers I've come across on the interwebs but it is good to find a more direct opinion, especially since Ingvar seems to have used quite a few by now.

I found one single opinion where one guy preferred Eminence 3015lf to a 15" Faital but that was a bass player and the Eminence seems to have a response peak just where it is handy to have one on a bass cab with no tweeter.
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I would, thou, recomend a look at the 15FH510, the new ferit motor version.
it does look really good with its small 3" voice coil, and single spider
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Old 1st October 2012, 07:49 PM   #259
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Ingvar seems to have used quite a few by now.
I use a few hundred a year, ranging from the utterly ridiculous 2x18 horns with
18HP1060 to tiny litle pieces like the Tuva:

Click the image to open in full size.

With 4x 4Fe30 its a really decent entertainer.

Although 90% of my sales are for professional use, it is a lot closer to what we discuss here than one might think..
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Ingvar,
Got any pro setup pics?
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