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Old 11th September 2012, 08:45 PM   #1
dangdang is offline dangdang  Canada
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A friend of mine recommended me this site. I am newbie in DIY audio arena.

My Velodyne 600 RMS Subwoofer got busted and instead of fixing it for $350, I am thinking of investing in floor standing speakers and if needed get my sub fixed or buy diy sub.

I have been doing some research since last week. But need help on deciding DIY Floor Standing Speaker Kit In $500-$800 Range

Location: Vancouver, Canada
Current System:
Yamaha RXV1500 Receiver 120W x 7 (.04% THD, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 8 ohs)
Satellites Speakers: Cabinet (H/W/D) 8"/5.5"/6"; Drivers: 1" Tweeter, 4" Mid-Woofer, Internal Crossover; Frequency Response: 110 Hz - 20 kHz; 3dB; 4 Ohm Impedance (4/6/8 Ohm Receiver compatible); Sensitivity: 88 dB.

Budget: Around $700

Type of Music: 60% Movies, 40% Music (Pop, Hip hop, Vocals).
Really nice to have: Good with drum beats and once a year loud parties.

Multimedia Room: Width:12' Lenght:16' Height: 8'
Note: During family get togethers, I would use these speakers in family room with 16' height with quite open area or outside patio.

The following is the list of speakers I found so far interesting. I am planning to assemble the kit myself, could get cabinet builder to build it or if possible find local DIY audio guy to help me.

ER18MTM Ribbon ~$700

Zaph|Audio ZA5.5 tt $500 to ~$700

Frugel-Horn Mk3 flat-paks ~$550


Sunflower [Redux] ~$500

The A/V-3 Kit ~$329.00

Fostex BK-12m 4.5 Full-Range High Efficiency Folded Horn Kit ~$315

Dayton Audio RS722CK Speaker Kit Cherry $350

TriTrix MTM TL Speaker Components And Cabinet Kit Pair ~$260

I am not sure if these speakers would work with my receiver or I need to buy diy amp. I think my wife should be ok with the size of above speakers as long as they are in media room . I can't go bigger than these.

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Old 11th September 2012, 08:52 PM   #2
adason is offline adason  United States
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warning! personal opinion!
definitely sunflower... reasons, mainly open baffle, I did many open baffle project and will never go back, especially in midrange area; woofers, that is different story
although I never heard sunflower in person, I got few similar speakers, they (b)eat little bookshelfs and 4" fullrange for breakfast
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Old 11th September 2012, 09:00 PM   #3
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I would get the subwoofer repaired
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Old 11th September 2012, 09:05 PM   #4
ByronInPortland is offline ByronInPortland  United States
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If you're ambitious enough to built a speaker from a kit, then you're able to fix your subwoofer yourself. Whether it's the plate amp or the driver that's broken, I'm sure you can find a suitable replacement from Parts Express or Madisound for less than $350.
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Old 11th September 2012, 09:52 PM   #5
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I would say build a sub. Great first project. OB speakers have their followers for very good reasons, but they are not for first timers and if you have not been "converted" it is hard to say if you will like them. ** A floor stander that does not need a sub will be a 10 inch or so woofer if you want "real" bass. A 6 inch 2-way will get you in the the 50's or 60's. That is enough for many people, and if you live in an apartment, all you should do. My last build was a slight modification to the Zaph SR-71. It is a substantial step up from my Paradigm Studio 20's just to give a frame of reference. More in the distortion than the frequency response. If you build your own boxes and are cheap about it, not far off your budget. Just build the baffle EXACTLLY to his dimensions.

**I would sure love to rent Siegfried's place and listen to the Orions for a week, but that is just not in the budget.

You did not say what was wrong with the Velo. Amp or speaker? Is it a servo? Their top end units were pretty good. A DIY can blow the doors off their low end models. You can DIY a box big enough and heavy enough but a budget OEM product has to be within the delivery service limits. For UPS, that is 60 Lbs. None of my subs are that light.
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Old 11th September 2012, 09:58 PM   #6
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When my velodyne f12 amplifier broke some years ago, I replaced it with a 500w bash amp. Worked very well. Then I replaced the velodyne driver with a Dayton reference 12" when the foam surrounds rotted out a couple years later. After that, I replaced the Velodyne cabinet with a dayton cherrywood cabinet because the velodyne cabinet was beat up pretty bad. That looked and sounded so good, that I did another and another and another and another improvement, until I ended up with this. The original(heh heh) sub is up against the window in the back. My wife never would have stood for this if it was all done at once. It grew on her slowly and now she actually likes it. Like I said before..Heh heh..
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Old 11th September 2012, 10:54 PM   #7
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Not fixing the sub is my excuse to build diy speakers ;-). The Velodyne subwoofer is SPL-800 I think. The subwoofer is making crackling sounds. As per Velodyne local service tech, the electronic board needs replacement and its about $350. The refurbished plate amp from Velodyne would cost same + shipping. The following is sub's spec.

Cabinet (H/W/D) 11.25"/11"/11.75"; Drivers: 8" Cone, 2.5" Voice Coil; Variable Crossover (40 Hz -120 Hz), Integrated 600 Watt RMS Class-D amplifier; Frequency Response: 29 Hz - 120 Hz 3 dB.

I am actually looking for upgrading the Front LR speakers.

Remlab, good idea. That's my plan too. I want to upgrade my system slowly.

I live in Langley, BC and wouldn't mind buddying up with local experienced DIY guy.
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Old 11th September 2012, 11:06 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by adason View Post
definitely sunflower...

..the original Aethers was a top award winner and the Sunflower Redux is described as a significant upgrade by the designer.

-you will need some extra space with these however due to the rear output (with the wall behind them).
perspective is everything
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Old 11th September 2012, 11:27 PM   #9
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I've not heard the Sunflowers, but I have a couple of speakers by the same designer. So, vicariously, I would say go with the sunflowers. Paul Carmody knows how to design a great speaker.
With that being said, I think listening to movies without a subwoofer might be less than good. So... if you want nice speakers for music and still want a sub for movies, I think you can still stay in your budget and have both. Paul has some other designs that I'm sure sound great. https://sites.google.com/site/undefinition/diy/amiga
Jolida SJ502A, Squeezebox Touch, Paul Carmody's Sunflowers, Jeff Bagby's Continuums; Planet 10 HiFi's MarkAudio A 7.3 Frugalhorns and MarkAudio CHP-70s, Nola Brio Clones with a Voxel Sub and a bunch of others...
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Old 12th September 2012, 09:22 AM   #10
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I do prefer the RS drivers over the Zaph. Used them both.
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