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Old 4th December 2012, 02:53 AM   #71
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Well, sure they spent a lot on research for there drivers but that's over many years and a lot of sales. Wording like this make it sound like this one driver cost millions in research!
This is just the next step for the uni-q drivers.
I had some uni-q bookshelves and they cost 250, I'm sure at that point they spent 800,000 bucks according to the million dollar reasoning.
Now just because these new ones improve on those surely doesn't justify the huge price difference for slightly more costly materials.
I mean, this is a case of charging the most for the least amount of materials, just because it performs great shouldn't justify the cost. The designing team doesn't see that extra loot.
Great designs should only be good for a brand getting respect and greater sales based on competitive prices for the amount of materials and labor.
Well, that's how I think about it, but I would make a poor capitalist
The Uni-Q has been in a constant state of refinement for what? 30 years? They are never satisfied. The design just keeps getting better and better and better.. Look at the 95 db THD graphs from the CNC. They are among the best I've ever seen from 500 hz(crossover point) & up.. Markedly better than the previous generation that Krutke tested..
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Old 4th December 2012, 03:01 AM   #72
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Sure, I agree. They are great!
That's not my point.
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Old 4th December 2012, 10:01 AM   #73
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I don't think these are an insane value when you figure in the cost of materials.
You might think so based on performance, but I like to look at the whole package.....design, materials, labor and performance.
Magnepan MMG's are an insane value, not these.
Are these the same MMG's you were talking about being an insane value? Heh Heh..
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To me, it's all about performance. I don't care if it's concrete or cardboard..
I believe the lowest priced class A speaker in Stereophile is $15,000. Yes, ten times less than that is an insane value.
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Old 4th December 2012, 10:40 AM   #74
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The R100 costs a lot less. OK, maybe I'll start saving up for these instead..Maybe..
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Are these the same MMG's you were talking about being an insane value? Heh Heh..
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To me, it's all about performance. I don't care if it's concrete or cardboard..
I believe the lowest priced class A speaker in Stereophile is $15,000. Yes, ten times less than that is an insane value.
Wrong ones.
Those are the mmg-w.
You go ahead and save up. Ill continue to make my own.
Maybe this thread should be moved to the review section. Oh wait........we don't have one.
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Old 6th December 2012, 12:11 AM   #76
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KEF LS50 - What Hi-Fi? Awards - Product of the Year 2012 - Stereo Speakers - YouTube

Keep in mind that this second video was not meant for the DIY set(Obviously). A little hard to watch.. Does give some good insight into construction methods that the diy community could use though..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTClUB_BRSU
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That transducer is reason behind my thinking. It's the same one used in the blade.
No. The Blade driver is dedicated mid (thin suspension, not Z-surround). Also, I think the Blade has a neo-based motor.

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I must say, his speaker sounded very good..
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I didn't buy them because the amps would have been visible to someone entering my living room, and I didn't like that.
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Keep in mind that this second video was not meant for the DIY set(Obviously). A little hard to watch.. Does give some good insight into construction methods that the diy community could use though..
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A flexible port???
ooooooweee what's up with dat? What's up with dat.

Hmmmm, now we have something to talk about.
I never do BR's but it's interesting none the less.
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No. The Blade driver is dedicated mid (thin suspension, not Z-surround). Also, I think the Blade has a neo-based motor.



I had the Soundfield Audio Monitor 1's in my loft, and thought them excellent. See here for more.

I didn't buy them because the amps would have been visible to someone entering my living room, and I didn't like that.
Thanks for pointing that out about the blade. My bad..

Also, thanks for the Soundfield link.
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I had the Blade at RMAF. Nothing special at all.
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