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Old 14th August 2012, 12:28 AM   #1
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Default Openly Baffled: A Dipolar Compilation CD!

OK, it's no secret that certain recordings lend themselves especially well to OB designs. I started putting together a compilation CD for the sole purpose of showcasing this. I'm sure you all have your favorite tunes that highlight the many benefits of dipoles; it would be great if we could come up with a list of suggested material.

I'd like to get your recommendations for artist name and track, as well as a brief explanation as to why you selected that particular track(s) for OB. All musical genres are welcome!

I'll be glad to get the list started:

1) Reverence, by Daniel Ward (Amazing dynamics and attack, acoustic flamenco style, really accentuates the fast characteristics of OB bass, many diverse timbres as well. Most Box designs simply cant keep up!)

2) Caipira, by Ottmar Liebert (Impeccable imaging and nice acoustic harmonics, rich guitar tones)

3) The Girl in the Other Room by Diana Krall (Well mastered classic female vocals, well recorded. I use this track for fine tuning crossover points)
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Old 14th August 2012, 01:19 AM   #2
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Hi,

I don't think any of your premises are true regarding recordings and dipole,
as opposed to monopole or bipole, there are no specific dipole recordings.

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Dinah - Bucky Pizzarelli Swing Live.
Dynamic attack and transients that I only hear in OB.

edit: only

I've heard this in many types of speakers
- Constant directivity (econowaves)
- Omni
- Cardioid (Musikelectronic Geithain 901K)
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Old 14th August 2012, 03:27 AM   #4
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I own a pair of Magnepan 1.6's (not currently hooked up). I look forward to seeing the (longer) list. Also, do these recordings have identifiable common features (micing, mixing, certain producer, fairy dust, etc.?)
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If you observe the spectra of the recording I mentioned, the average are *very low* and then *SMACK*.

So yes, good dynamic recording. It seems that dipoles can react and fill the room with these 'whack's.

On normal box speakers (even my 96db econowaves) they sound muted.
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Particularly if you listen to something like fast acoustic bass, (i.e., Brain Bromberg) there is a world of difference between dipole (ripole) bass and the often smeared presentation from many vented boxes... albeit these could be poor designs.
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If you observe the spectra of the recording I mentioned, the average are *very low* and then *SMACK*.

So yes, good dynamic recording. It seems that dipoles can react and fill the room with these 'whack's.

On normal box speakers (even my 96db econowaves) they sound muted.
I would also argue that properties such as attack and decay are more true to the original, as they are not affected by the internal environment of a cabinet, which may vary from one design to the next.
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Old 14th August 2012, 12:06 PM   #8
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This sounds pretty incredible on my little Manzanita's...

Merged thread of demo songs, tracks and CDs
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If you observe the spectra of the recording I mentioned, the average are *very low* and then *SMACK*.

So yes, good dynamic recording. It seems that dipoles can react and fill the room with these 'whack's.

On normal box speakers (even my 96db econowaves) they sound muted.
Interestingly the biggest difference between dipole and monopole speakers people usually notice is in the bass range (I even remember reading Geddes's comments on how he was surprised by the good bass reproduction from Orions). Have you had a chance to compare your OB subs with properly set-up monopole multi-subs in your room?
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It was the bass which driven me to OB, but later on the dynamics were stark difference. Monopoles simply sounded "small".

I did a comparison last year.
S15: Econowave DSP - a Constant Directivity vs Dipole study
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