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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: India
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Hi,
I had owned a pair of speakers which were 2 flat speakers in which the drivers would resemble like a honey comb and that was from Technics which were wall hanging type and was resembling like a small square wall clock. about 12 years back. Now I am trying to search the details regarding that kind of speakers, if anybody has more information about it can anyone please give me the details about that. please avguy |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
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These speakers basically just have transducers attached to the flat piece. As the transducers vibrate, the cause the flat piece to vibrate. Unfortunately, It's just not the best technology in the world. X-max is very low, transient response is poor, and they just don't sound that great.
Cheers, Zach |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: India
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Thanks for your information. Actually the speaker which I had was that it was a driver inside and not any transducer. The actual speaker inside. The construction was such that it use to appear like a honeycomb if we remove the grill. And as far the technicalities that may not be the best technology. But the sound in those speakers are noteworthy. So any people having more information. please feel free to share it. Thanks Avguy |
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diyAudio Editor
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Francisco, USA
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Steve at www.apexjr.com had some until very recently. These were round drivers with a tweeter in the middle surrounded by a midrange surrounde by a "woofer" On the front, they were all flat.
You should contact him, sometimes he has a few extra of things even if they aren't listed. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: L.A., CA
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I actually have some of the old 'honeycomb' drivers by Technics from an old 12"3 way they made. The woofer and midrange are built like conventional drivers with normal conical cones that are covered by a flat 1/4" thich plastic honeyconb disk that is light and very rigid. This makes them act like a flat piston radiator. The tweeter is a thin disk glue to the voice coil of what would be a normal soft dome tweeter. They sound just OK with the factory setup and tend to be on the bright side. They are all still available from Technics parts dept but ain't cheap. Last I looked it was $180 for a woofer.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: India
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Thanks,
Thanks Variac for your information and I have contacted apex Jr and awaiting reply. And the link which you have given to check out for your speakers is marvellous and I have to commend you for the work done on the speakers. Those are really excellent and quite cool stuff. You have to get some award for the finishing done on those speakers. Thanks Markp, Would you attach the pictures of the speakers of Technics if possible and can you give me the link of the technics where they have listed that speakers for sale just to check it out. Thanks for your sharing of information. Regards, Avguy |
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diyAudio Editor
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Francisco, USA
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Apexjr still has them listed, I was just looking in the wrong place
Check this out: http://www.apexjr.com/new.htm You have to scroll about 3/4 of the way down Maybe these weren't what y ou were looking for. Thanks for the comments about my speakers. They are all disassembled at the moment to make the open baffle bigger, and to switch in my new JBL woofer. Might not be as pretty after, but should sound better! Mark |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: India
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Hi,
Thanks for the link, yesterday I had got a mail from apexjr and was told to look at the same section of the webpage. But I could not find it. Today when you sent me this link and I got that speakers on the page. But the one which I was talking about was not this kind but it was something different. But this is of more advanced type. Anyway thanks for helping me to find out similar stuff. And regarding about your speakers can I suggest you something. Which JBL driver are you using. Could you not find anyother better option than JBL. Because these JBL speakers according to me at certain times sounds very bright more than natural. What do you feel. Any way best of luck for your modification. Anand |
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diyAudio Editor
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Francisco, USA
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whoops, I wasn't clear. The JBL is a 15" woofer for the bass box, so it would be hard for it to be too bright. JBL's are pretty polarizing- some like 'em some don't, but I think in this application they will be an improvement- more x max, maybe flatter, lower Fs
They are the ME150H and were used in the S3100 and 4344 Mk 2 speakers. The 4344 was only sold in Asia as far as I know. Because the drivers were only used in completed JBL speakers I don't have much info on them. I talk about them too much in the "Great 15" drivers -who has 'em" thread!!! |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: India
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Hi,
Markp : Have you finished your project. I mean the replacement of the drivers and finetuning your speakers ? Just let us know about that. Any other comments on Honeycomb speakers ? If anybody others have any opinions about that kindly share the same. Avguy |
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