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Old 25th November 2013, 06:10 AM   #391
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Idk man you can only really get so far from improving an existing driver let alone a cheap driver. Though there is no doubt there can be an improvement.
could be much more than just improving it
only use original chassis, magnet system, and voice coil, and change the rest
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Old 25th November 2013, 07:08 AM   #392
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could be much more than just improving it
only use original chassis, magnet system, and voice coil, and change the rest
this is what i have in my mind for a long time, but it's so rarely mentioned on the web, compared to other audio related activities - i can't find any info on making cones, surrounds, spiders .. just generic commercial recone-stuff. i know i have to learn mostly by myself, but i appreciate anything i find (like this thread, even if it lacks basic since people here are experienced). thanks again and sorry for off-topic.
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Old 25th November 2013, 03:56 PM   #393
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Perhaps an ideal solution is to use a helical double-start or triple-start machined spring as a spider replacement. They can be designed for low spring rate in the axial direction, which is nice for getting your desired Fs. At the same time, they can also have high spring rate in the radial direction, which is great for centering. Finally, they have no stiction which is a problem in slide-type assemblies (e.g. Adire Audio Parthenon).
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Old 25th November 2013, 04:52 PM   #394
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- i can't find any info on making cones ...
a folded piece of paper works fine for a small fullrange cone, and is very well proven too
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Old 26th November 2013, 01:05 AM   #395
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a folded piece of paper works fine for a small fullrange cone, and is very well proven too
Those spider arrangements look like they create non-linearities from the slippage (which needs the static friction to be broken free first).
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Old 1st December 2013, 11:13 PM   #396
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You may find that it is difficult to get the accuracy you want due to the support material that will be built into the design. Take care during the support addition stage and you should be OK.

EDIT: You should remove those sharp contours. They are stress risers.
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Nice spider.... but I'm sure it is hard to make, if you make it of plastic I think it will break over time.

I like the fact that the areal is small this will produce less sound and interfere less with the sound that the is cone making. I am still confused to what kind of spider I will be using, I need a very soft one due to the low cone mass.

Here is a picture of my new wizzer, the weight is a bit under 100 micro grams, in fact I can't measure it on my scale sense the resolution is 0,1 gram.

Take care
Of course what i presented are just conceptual renderings. Im discussing the material and 3D printer limitations with the people operating that machinery in order to get what i want.
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Old 1st December 2013, 11:13 PM   #397
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but may better be

here is a quick drawing of the curved string idea
I like this idea very much.
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Old 1st December 2013, 11:14 PM   #398
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Old 3rd December 2013, 06:23 PM   #399
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WOW thous "black in black" are looking awesome
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Old 18th December 2013, 10:46 PM   #400
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Spider materialized. will follow shortly with more details just want to share this, really excited.
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