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Old 14th February 2012, 06:14 PM   #1
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My current setup is based on Alpair7.3 in closed cabinet and Focal 6K4411 in ML-TL enclosure.

I'm quite pleased about focal. Lower end is detailed there isn't any softness. Everything is sharp and well together but it lacks the slam and thumb I'm looking for. Lower end just doesn't feel in your chest.

Bigger is usually better so I'm thinking that more inches will fix my problem.

So I need recommendations for a driver within following specs:

* Must be suitable for ML-TL enclosure
* 87-90dB
* needs to be sharp and detailed
* should be able to do at least 2000hz (I'm using 1st order crossover)
* price range would be around 100$ per driver
* 8ohms
* (ability to get around 32-35 Hz)

Any ideas am I going to get the things that I'm looking for in this price range?

Or should I be prepared to put some more bucks on the table to get the same detail and sharpness that I'm currently getting with my focal?
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Old 14th February 2012, 07:03 PM   #2
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If you can find it, and I've seen them still available in Europe, Audax HM210G0. May not meet your price target today. Used to be 58.00USD many moon ago.
Perhaps a 7 inch will do. I like ETON but too expensive. ScanSpeak Discovery - rising hump above 1Khz....? Seas CA22RNX might be a nice 8 incher. I tend to prefer paper cones.
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Old 14th February 2012, 08:14 PM   #3
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Etons really seem nice drivers. Price is a bit steep, but not impossible.

Audax seems to have very bad availability, so no go on that one.

ScanSpeak really has a very disturbing rising hump.

Seas CA22RNX seems to be the closest to my needs. Although I also hit my eyes on CA22RNY that seems to be slightly more balanced than CA22RNX
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Old 15th February 2012, 11:58 PM   #4
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...though i really don't see the point of pointlessly sticking to a first order crossover as it seriously restricts your driver choices to soft materials, messes off-axis response, and power handling...

I recommend an SB Acoustics 23NRXS45-8
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Old 16th February 2012, 11:52 AM   #5
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Little over budget, but worth it - Volt BM220.8
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Old 16th February 2012, 12:54 PM   #6
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Seas ca22RNY/RNX has a rather soft bottom, othewise excellent. If you want a harder hitting bottom the Seas is not what you want.
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Old 16th February 2012, 02:25 PM   #7
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I've been looking for good 8" drivers for a sealed box. Beyma and Eminence have some interesting drivers that may suite your needs.
Or maybe something from here ?
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Old 17th February 2012, 08:57 AM   #8
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...though i really don't see the point of pointlessly sticking to a first order crossover as it seriously restricts your driver choices to soft materials, messes off-axis response, and power handling...
If I would be doing just a another 2-way I would totally agree with you. I've made those and now I want to see what can be achieved with 1st order x-overs. Better integration, bad integration, something that I never thought about? This is part of the learning process on my behalf. It might be that these will sound terrible and I'll get my focals back. But if you never make mistakes you never learn right?
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Old 17th February 2012, 08:58 AM   #9
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One thing I forgot to mention on earlier posts.
Power handling is no concern of mine. These are speakers for small to medium sized room.
Also I'm not overly concern about off-axis response. Sweet spot is narrow at best.

RFC, Eminence and beyma seem to have way too sensitive speakers for me and I'm not very fond of idea to put more components on signal route in order to get things even.

Volt on the other hand catch my eye. Also SB Acoustics might have what it takes. Although 1khz hump is something I'd rather see little bit later.

Any reviews or comments how the above drivers actually sound?
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Old 17th February 2012, 10:40 AM   #10
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How about Peerless 830869?
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