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PeteMcK · 22nd January 2012, 11:34 PM

AlexQS · 22nd January 2012, 11:41 PM

Those are beautiful!!

tvrgeek · 23rd January 2012, 12:25 AM

He says it is hard to locate the sound. Nothing wrong with the speaker. Very nice woodworking, but against that brick wall..... Please people, do some research on room treatments. It is just as important as the speaker and you should spend just as much. FAR more important than the electronics driving it.

GloBug · 23rd January 2012, 12:29 AM

Care to elaborate?

"FAR more important than the electronics driving it. "

That's a pretty strong statement.

Perhaps I have been doing it all wrong!

AlexQS · 23rd January 2012, 12:46 AM

I like this. http://www.vandersteen.com/3asigmanual.pdf It's a .pdf manual for Vandersteen speakers.

Go to page 7. I have been following this formula to calculate speaker placement for years, works with many different speakers I have tried it on. The math will get you close, then move them a little bit from there and use your ear.

I think the stereo image has better resolution when I can devide the room into thirds, but the wife doesn't like the speakers in the middle of the room, so I am domestically closer to the wall,... but still, when I close my eyes, sounds tend to hang in the air between the two speakers, rather than coming from the speakers.

GloBug · 23rd January 2012, 12:53 AM

I will have a peek at that, thanks.

Pano · 23rd January 2012, 01:00 AM

The method is easy to do.

Oh, and by "hard to locate the sound" maybe he means the speakers disappear?

planet10 · 23rd January 2012, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvrgeek

He says it is hard to locate the sound. Nothing wrong with the speaker. Very nice woodworking, but against that brick wall..... Please people, do some research on room treatments. It is just as important as the speaker and you should spend just as much. FAR more important than the electronics driving it.

Everything is important, it is a system.

dave

tinitus · 23rd January 2012, 01:55 AM

quote
The main things i'm noticing from these speakers are how hard it is to locate the sound, and how well they perform off axis.
I don't have an "ideal" listening position but they sound very solid from nearly anywhere in the room.

that statement kind of says it all

AllenB · 23rd January 2012, 03:19 AM

This sounds like a reaction to hearing a waveguide for the first time, since it could be directing sound away from diffracting around the cabinet, and reducing early reflections.

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22nd January 2012, 11:41 PM	#2
AlexQS diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Pacific Northwest	Those are beautiful!!

23rd January 2012, 12:25 AM	#3
tvrgeek diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Md	He says it is hard to locate the sound. Nothing wrong with the speaker. Very nice woodworking, but against that brick wall..... Please people, do some research on room treatments. It is just as important as the speaker and you should spend just as much. FAR more important than the electronics driving it.

23rd January 2012, 12:29 AM	#4
GloBug Banned Join Date: Jun 2011	Care to elaborate? "FAR more important than the electronics driving it. " That's a pretty strong statement. Perhaps I have been doing it all wrong!

23rd January 2012, 12:46 AM	#5
AlexQS diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Pacific Northwest	I like this. http://www.vandersteen.com/3asigmanual.pdf It's a .pdf manual for Vandersteen speakers. Go to page 7. I have been following this formula to calculate speaker placement for years, works with many different speakers I have tried it on. The math will get you close, then move them a little bit from there and use your ear. I think the stereo image has better resolution when I can devide the room into thirds, but the wife doesn't like the speakers in the middle of the room, so I am domestically closer to the wall,... but still, when I close my eyes, sounds tend to hang in the air between the two speakers, rather than coming from the speakers.

23rd January 2012, 12:53 AM	#6
GloBug Banned Join Date: Jun 2011	I will have a peek at that, thanks.

23rd January 2012, 01:00 AM	#7
Pano diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina Blog Entries: 4	The method is easy to do. Oh, and by "hard to locate the sound" maybe he means the speakers disappear?

23rd January 2012, 01:55 AM	#9
tinitus diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005	quote The main things i'm noticing from these speakers are how hard it is to locate the sound, and how well they perform off axis. I don't have an "ideal" listening position but they sound very solid from nearly anywhere in the room. that statement kind of says it all

23rd January 2012, 03:19 AM	#10
AllenB diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2008	This sounds like a reaction to hearing a waveguide for the first time, since it could be directing sound away from diffracting around the cabinet, and reducing early reflections.

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