Go Back   Home > Forums > Loudspeakers > Multi-Way
Home Forums Rules Articles Store Gallery Blogs Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Multi-Way Conventional loudspeakers with crossovers

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 20th January 2012, 06:27 AM   #1
jjl is offline jjl  Australia
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Default Should I refurbish a set of jr149 speakers

I have a set of jr149 speakers that are showing their age a bit. I purchased them new back in the 70's.
I am wondering if it would be worthwhile rebuilding them with some more modern components and if so what would you suggest. The woofers are the Kef B100 and I am not sure what the tweeters are. I do not want to alter the cabinets at all so I can retain the originality by simply replacing the old parts if needed (probably not, but not a bad idea).
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks
Jeremy
  Reply With Quote
Old 20th January 2012, 11:58 AM   #2
Account disabled at member's request
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Between cities!
You do realise your speakers something of a collectors item? They are worth a small fortune over here. Rebuilding them with "modern components"is a bad idea. Really.
  Reply With Quote
Old 20th January 2012, 12:10 PM   #3
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Birmingham, UK
Indeed they are collectors items by now.
I'd sell them and build something better with the profits.
  Reply With Quote
Old 20th January 2012, 03:43 PM   #4
sreten is offline sreten  United Kingdom
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
Hi,

The drivers are the high impedance KEF B110 and T27 used in the original
high impedance BBC LS3/5A and as such are highly desirable as spare parts.

You may be able to sell the drivers (and c/o) as parts for more than the
speakers. If so the cabinets would make a nice basis for a project.

rgds, sreten.
__________________
There is nothing so practical as a really good theory - Ludwig Boltzmann
When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail - Abraham Maslow
  Reply With Quote
Old 20th January 2012, 05:00 PM   #5
system7 is offline system7  United Kingdom
diyAudio Member
 
system7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Only chipping in because Jim Rogers was a bit of a legend. He based the JR149 on the famous tiny BBC LS3/5A which he also designed IIRC. Better cylindrical metal cabinet and a bit more bass extension.

Lots of info available like this site: jr149

Looks like the original design was very crossover equalised for the KEF B110 SP1003 bass and T27 treble. Baffle step, some reduction of peaks and Zobels an all. Later designs used a Focal 110mm unit and scanspeak tweeter with simplified 3rd order filters. Nothing there that ought to deteriorate too badly except the usual glue and surrounds and covering foam, I'd reckon.
  Reply With Quote
Old 20th January 2012, 05:08 PM   #6
frugal-phile(tm)
diyAudio Moderator
 
planet10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III
Blog Entries: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by sreten View Post
The drivers are the high impedance KEF B110 and T27 used in the original
high impedance BBC LS3/5A and as such are highly desirable as spare parts.
The 15 ohm LS3/5A used hand picked, but standard 8 ohm parts i believe.

dave
__________________
community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi
p10-hifi forum here at diyA
  Reply With Quote
Old 21st January 2012, 12:27 AM   #7
sreten is offline sreten  United Kingdom
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
Quote:
Originally Posted by planet10 View Post
The 15 ohm LS3/5A used hand picked, but standard 8 ohm parts i believe.

dave
Hi,

Different version of the B110 I believe to the later version, T27 the same.

Quote:
Before 1987 the 15 ohm version LS3/5A used a KEF B110 SP1003.
Post 1987 the 11 ohm version used the KEF B110 SP1228.
There are four versions of the B110, all "standard" 8 ohm.

The 11 ohm version requires matching drivers and c/o, as driver
variation to some extent was compensated in each crossover.

PITA having to check something true because being contradicted. Pre
1987 T27's are still worth more even though they are nominally the same.

Whatever the details (and there are lots more to argue about) the
drivers are worth a lot in the far east, if correct type and vintage.

rgds, sreten.
__________________
There is nothing so practical as a really good theory - Ludwig Boltzmann
When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail - Abraham Maslow

Last edited by sreten; 21st January 2012 at 12:37 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 21st January 2012, 12:45 AM   #8
frugal-phile(tm)
diyAudio Moderator
 
planet10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Victoria, BC, NA, Sol III
Blog Entries: 4
B110 SP1003 is an 8 ohm driver -- essentially what i stated.

http://homepage.mac.com/planet10/TLS...110_SP1003.gif

Quote:
the high impedance KEF B110 and T27
Quote:
There are four versions of the B110, all "standard" 8 ohm.
Yes, there are no high impedance B110 (or T27)

dave
__________________
community sites t-linespeakers.org, frugal-horn.com ........ commercial site planet10-HiFi
p10-hifi forum here at diyA
  Reply With Quote
Old 21st January 2012, 01:15 AM   #9
sreten is offline sreten  United Kingdom
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
Hi,

Post #4 didn't come out right. The versions are the same as in the high
impedance version of the LS3/5A, not high impedance driver versions.
(Though some LS3/5A'ers might refer to them that way).

rgds, sreten.
__________________
There is nothing so practical as a really good theory - Ludwig Boltzmann
When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail - Abraham Maslow
  Reply With Quote
Old 21st January 2012, 03:09 AM   #10
jjl is offline jjl  Australia
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Thanks to all for your information. I will have to now consider what to do with these speakers if they are worth preserving, or selling the parts. I will take a closer look at them and find out exactly which model or year they are. The foam covers have gone completely, just rotted away and turned to dust but the rosewood cabinets are in excellent condition.
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Curious set of speakers dsdurkes Full Range 1 14th September 2010 05:47 PM
2 amps, 1 set of speakers boostin1989 Solid State 3 24th May 2010 09:40 PM
2 amplifiers and one set of speakers hemos Everything Else 2 22nd September 2008 06:44 PM
Next set of DIY speakers cyberspyder Multi-Way 8 3rd May 2008 07:11 PM
Help with chosing new set of speakers Jeff R Multi-Way 0 26th November 2002 06:19 PM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 07:38 AM.

Page generated in 0.10735 seconds (79.00% PHP - 21.00% MySQL) with 10 queries

Copyright ©1999-2012 diyAudio