Thanks for the info. Some mighty fine drivers available, though many of them are fairly pricey in my 'neck of the woods'. The little SS M13-4535 FR with a bit of series resistance will make a nice MT or MTM for modest sized rooms, though a sub will be needed for larger rooms and/or serious SPLs below ~100Hz.
GM
GM
Sorry about the wait...
Ok to answer as many of your questionas as possible:
Andy: i feel like useing 6.5", but i could go with 5-5.25" cos im currently building an adire audio shiva subwoofer w/ 350W amp (85L tuned to 20Hz)
Purpose of the speakers... well to keep up with the shiva
, also decent quality.
My current speakers are enough to keep up with my dual 8" subs, but i want just that little bit more
Room size... pretty small about 3M X 3M its a bedroom, guess you didnt realise i am only 16.
Ok to answer as many of your questionas as possible:
Andy: i feel like useing 6.5", but i could go with 5-5.25" cos im currently building an adire audio shiva subwoofer w/ 350W amp (85L tuned to 20Hz)
Purpose of the speakers... well to keep up with the shiva
, also decent quality.My current speakers are enough to keep up with my dual 8" subs, but i want just that little bit more
Room size... pretty small about 3M X 3M its a bedroom, guess you didnt realise i am only 16.
I've always wanted to try....
.. an mtm using the Peerless HDS 5" and either the HDS tweeter from WES components or a vifa XT25. (don't know wat cost that would be though, probably blow your budget)
I am in fact considering exactly that sometime soon, with a solid Tassie Blackwood front baffle !!! or maybe using the Trinity theme
My "Trinity Towers" used the 6.5" HDS and they were a beautiful speaker to listen to. (sold them for $3600)
I have partial designs for the 5" "trinity" mtm fronts and mt rears.
Email me if interested cos the files are too big to attach here.
Another nice idea would be to use the Audax AT130GO + TM020J7, that would be a rather nice combo !!
email donna@me-au.com for prices,
my guess would be $50 for the AT130's and $30 for the TM020J7 (but don't quote me on that please !!!!)
.. an mtm using the Peerless HDS 5" and either the HDS tweeter from WES components or a vifa XT25. (don't know wat cost that would be though, probably blow your budget)
I am in fact considering exactly that sometime soon, with a solid Tassie Blackwood front baffle !!! or maybe using the Trinity theme
My "Trinity Towers" used the 6.5" HDS and they were a beautiful speaker to listen to. (sold them for $3600)
I have partial designs for the 5" "trinity" mtm fronts and mt rears.
Email me if interested cos the files are too big to attach here.
Another nice idea would be to use the Audax AT130GO + TM020J7, that would be a rather nice combo !!
email donna@me-au.com for prices,
my guess would be $50 for the AT130's and $30 for the TM020J7 (but don't quote me on that please !!!!)
G'day Krazed,
The Shiva for a bedroom
I like your style
If we could get enough data, I'd guess that there would be a relationship between the VD of the subwoofer, and the age that you leave home!!! ...
I take it that your parents aren't familiar with the Shiva, and don't know that Shiva means "god of destruction."!!! (it's in the Hindu religion I think)
Seriously though, I think two drivers that you should consider in particular are the 5" vifa P13 and the 6.5" vifa P17. The former has an extremely flat response and is very easy to work with, the latter has good bass extension but the response is not as flat. If you have a sub, the P13 could be the way to go. Check out the Ariel and ME2, you could do a 2 way TM version of the ME2.
cheers,
Paul
The Shiva for a bedroom
I like your style
If we could get enough data, I'd guess that there would be a relationship between the VD of the subwoofer, and the age that you leave home!!! ...
I take it that your parents aren't familiar with the Shiva, and don't know that Shiva means "god of destruction."!!! (it's in the Hindu religion I think)
Seriously though, I think two drivers that you should consider in particular are the 5" vifa P13 and the 6.5" vifa P17. The former has an extremely flat response and is very easy to work with, the latter has good bass extension but the response is not as flat. If you have a sub, the P13 could be the way to go. Check out the Ariel and ME2, you could do a 2 way TM version of the ME2.
cheers,
Paul
My current setup:
Ok, I dont have what you would call a high end setup, but im working on it
My main speakers are made by R.P Acoustics and they are the B50 model, i have searched high and low for these speakers on the net and i cant find ANYTHING to do with them.
The amp that drives them is a Teac amp from a mini system (60WRMS @ 6Ohms ) and i cant seem to be able to find the user manual anymore. Anyway the model of that is DC-D948.
I mosly use the system for music but movies are also played through it (its connected to my pc).
Anyone know how sound waves may effect fish? Because i have a fishtank in my room, and i dont really want my fish all dieing of fright.
Cant really think of anything else to add to this ATM.
Thanx for all your replies.
Ok, I dont have what you would call a high end setup, but im working on it
My main speakers are made by R.P Acoustics and they are the B50 model, i have searched high and low for these speakers on the net and i cant find ANYTHING to do with them.
The amp that drives them is a Teac amp from a mini system (60WRMS @ 6Ohms
) and i cant seem to be able to find the user manual anymore. Anyway the model of that is DC-D948.I mosly use the system for music but movies are also played through it (its connected to my pc).
Anyone know how sound waves may effect fish? Because i have a fishtank in my room, and i dont really want my fish all dieing of fright.
Cant really think of anything else to add to this ATM.
Thanx for all your replies.
Update!!!!
I just found some Vifa drivers @ Jaycar. They were are the D26 screened tweeter, and the BC14G49-08 Mid/woofer which is also screened. The tweeter is $39.95 each, and the mid/woofer is $49.95 each or $44.90 each if i buy 4 or more of them.
Im pretty sure that this: http://www.d-s-t.com/vifa/data/d26nc-55-06d.htm is the link to the tweeter because it has the same specs, but its a different part number, the D26NC-55-06D replaced the D26NC-15-06.
So my question would this be a good combo for an MTM alignment?
I just found some Vifa drivers @ Jaycar. They were are the D26 screened tweeter, and the BC14G49-08 Mid/woofer which is also screened. The tweeter is $39.95 each, and the mid/woofer is $49.95 each or $44.90 each if i buy 4 or more of them.
Im pretty sure that this: http://www.d-s-t.com/vifa/data/d26nc-55-06d.htm is the link to the tweeter because it has the same specs, but its a different part number, the D26NC-55-06D replaced the D26NC-15-06.
So my question would this be a good combo for an MTM alignment?
big smile !!!
http://users.tpg.com.au/users/gradds/HexHT.asp
Actually, the D26NC15 and D26NC55 differ physically in the pattern of fins on the heat sink on the magnet.
Its a nice little tweeter !!!
http://users.tpg.com.au/users/gradds/HexHT.asp
Actually, the D26NC15 and D26NC55 differ physically in the pattern of fins on the heat sink on the magnet.
Its a nice little tweeter !!!
The Vifa midbass driver is a budget version of the 5" P13 driver - it is the logic range, which is a cheaper version. Keep in mind that the power rating is quite low - 30 watts rms. Also the tweeter is 4 db more sensitive so you will have to pad it. The response is fairly tame so the crossover would be quite simple. If you used two of the midbass and the tweeter, you would get a better power rating and the sensitivities would match.
5" midbass - 87 db sensitive
use two and add +3db sensivity = 90 db 1w 1m
tweeter: 91 db 1w 1m
The power handling will then increase as well. The net effect is that you get 6db more SPL (60% louder)
I haven't heard from anyone who has used these drivers, but I expect they should perform quite well used in an MTM arrangement. The small faceplate on the tweeter is an advantage - it allows you to put the midbass drivers close to each other - this is better for imaging.
5" midbass - 87 db sensitive
use two and add +3db sensivity = 90 db 1w 1m
tweeter: 91 db 1w 1m
The power handling will then increase as well. The net effect is that you get 6db more SPL (60% louder)
I haven't heard from anyone who has used these drivers, but I expect they should perform quite well used in an MTM arrangement. The small faceplate on the tweeter is an advantage - it allows you to put the midbass drivers close to each other - this is better for imaging.
You could do a lot worse than having a go at pauls TL boxes . I am going to have a go at them my self .
Wes components .com http://www.wagner.net.au/Home.htm .
are a lot cheaper that jaycar . & sell vifa, peerless, sea-speak
If you email me I can tell you how to go about getting them at trade. if you want to?
trade price saved me $30 aus on a vifa driver compared to jaycar
Wes components .com http://www.wagner.net.au/Home.htm .
are a lot cheaper that jaycar . & sell vifa, peerless, sea-speak
If you email me I can tell you how to go about getting them at trade. if you want to?
trade price saved me $30 aus on a vifa driver compared to jaycar
paulspencer said:An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
It's strange, you're not the first to say that the image doesn't workHopefully the image will work here ...
No I didn't get the plans from anyone ... Jaycar don't do TL's!
I worked out the dimensions using a few clever tricks
If you still want to do it, I'd be happy to help
cheers,
Paul
on your website, the link for the picture is pointing to
file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/WinXP%20user/My%20Documents/05%20Website/audio/images/Etude_TL_final.jpg
that's the problem
thanks bricolo that makes sense ... now I can fix it as soon as I can get my ftp problems* worked out!!!
*aside - can anyone suggest a good ftp program that is freeware? (I can't get the built in netscape one to work) - email if u have an answer to that so the thread doesn't go anymore off topic
*aside - can anyone suggest a good ftp program that is freeware? (I can't get the built in netscape one to work) - email if u have an answer to that so the thread doesn't go anymore off topic
I had/have a budget of whatever I can save up...
Basically... my price run down looks like this..
4 Venom 8inch subwoofers @ 39.90 each
2 Cheap Tweeters @ $13.75 each
2 matching dome midranges at $25 each
a sheet of 1200X2400 25mm thick MDF @ $60
80 biscuits @ 15cents each
so far that comes to $309.10
But I still need crossovers and some finish for the boxes lol I"M BORED!!
Basically... my price run down looks like this..
4 Venom 8inch subwoofers @ 39.90 each
2 Cheap Tweeters @ $13.75 each
2 matching dome midranges at $25 each
a sheet of 1200X2400 25mm thick MDF @ $60
80 biscuits @ 15cents each
so far that comes to $309.10
But I still need crossovers and some finish for the boxes
lol I"M BORED!!
Andypairo said:
I'm all ears....
I also tried to work out the dimensionsfrom the document they had on their website (TL6instructions.doc), and mine are only slightly different from yours.
Any info will be appreciated (x-over, dimensions, etc.)
Cheers
Andrea
PS Damn good looking speakers!
Andrea,
Are you still working on a TL with 2* P17WJ?
I'll need wome loudspeakers soon, and I think that I'll also design a TL with 2 of these.
If you want some help, send me a mail
Alex
Yes, I am in the pre-building phase.
Already collected the woofers, still unsure about the tweets: I wanted to use a pair of vintage Heil tweeters (AMTs), but the ones I have are slightly different in impedance (one has probably a replaced diaphgram); this is not a major problem (I plan to use a active x-over) but I'm a bit worried about spare parts in case one of them fails...
I also have a pair of Visaton ribbons but they don't go as low as needed.
My "emergency" tweeters are Seas 835 (if I recall correctly), alu dome and rear chamber.
Do you have some suggestions?
Cheers
Andrea
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