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Join Date: Dec 2011
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I am new to home audio and to speaker building, but I am trying to build a set of tower speakers to go with my home theater system. I would like to run a 3 way design and have been thinking about these
Dayton RS28a Tweeter Dayton Audio RS28A-4 1-1/8" Aluminum Dome Tweeter 275-130 Dayton RS225 8in Woofer Dayton Audio RS225-8 8" Reference Woofer 295-356 DIY Cable Exodus EX-Anarchy Midwoofer DIYCable.com : Intro » Home » Exodus Anarchy » Since I have little knowledge in crossover design I would like to try to use pre-built passive crossovers or an active crossover that i could tune myself. Any help you can give me in driver and crossover choice would be greatly appreciated. Building the cabinet will not be a problem, but after parts are chosen I may need help with the design of it. Tell me what you think, thanks. |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mar del Plata, a BIG seasonal getaway city, can see the Ocean from our residence.
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Your selection of drivers are kinda all over the map.Note the sensitivity of your Mid-woofer, at 84 Db your system will be a power eater. You system is only as efficient as the least efficient driver. The cool thing about towers is they are ripe for MTM arrangement , or two woofers with the tweeter placed between the two. Effectively a two-way this set-up gives you great imaging. Using two 8" drivers will be a bit of a challenge getting the frequencies to overlap effectively. PE has two-way crossovers with connections for two woofers, exactly what we're after. I would phone-up PEs' tech line as I don't know if these crossovers have impedence compensation or allow for the two woofers to venture into the 4 Ohm range when they cross.
The biggie on MTM is the De Appolito "effect", or symmetrical lobing effect. __________________________________________________ ______Rick..... |
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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I can toss out the mid-woofer, it just seemed to have a good build quality and a good frequency response, I forgot to look at the sensitivity. I am not set on any of the drivers I posted above, they just looked good to me after looking at other builds online. I like the idea of a MTM with two 8's, but I was afraid of the frequency overlap like you pointed out and that is why I added the Exodus 6.5
I'm really open to any set of drivers that can give me a wide range of low distortion frequency response with good output. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
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Hi,
I've already answered this by PM, why bother with PM if you want other opinions? FWIW I suggested : Daedalus as it uses two of the wanted drivers. An MTM with two 8"ers is not good with current 8" drivers, if ever. If you can't build a c/o from a parts list and diagram you should have said so, but if you wan't anything decent you will have to learn. Stay the hell away from from simple active c/o's that can't be set to do the job properly and even more away from passive off the shelf c/o's that are an utter disaster area waiting to happen. rgds, sreten. http://sites.google.com/site/undefinition/diy (see if nothing else, the excellent FAQs) http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=219617 http://www.zaphaudio.com http://www.zaphaudio.com/ZA5/ http://www.rjbaudio.com/Audiofiles/FRDtools.html http://web.archive.org/web/200909021...esigningXO.htm http://www.rjbaudio.com/ http://web.archive.org/web/200909022...ve99/Spkrbldg/ http://speakerdesignworks.com/ http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=28655 http://www.deadwaxcafe.com/vzone/david/david.htm http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/Diy_Lou...r_Projects.htm http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/download.html http://www.quarter-wave.com/ http://www.frugal-horn.com/ http://www.linkwitzlab.com/ http://www.musicanddesign.com/ Great free SPICE Emulator : http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/fold...t/tina-ti.html
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Hi Sreten, Blame me
I suggested opening a thread, as I thought that my suggestions alone were not enough. The Daedalus looks like a well executed project, I particularly like that he made the speaker workshop file available for download. Tony. |
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Western Sydney
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re: 'I've already answered this by PM...' LOL, so have I, FWIW I suggested a design nearly identical (post 3) - HTGuide Forum - Summary of key information from the 3-way WTMW / TMWW thread
re:'If you can't build a c/o from a parts list and diagram you should have said so, but if you wan't anything decent you will have to learn' - yes, but us 'old hands' take so much for granted, perhaps a link to a really simple primer on crossovers would help the OP realise it's not that hard, once some basic understanding is reached
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Impedance varies with frequency, use impedance plots of your drivers and make crossover calculations using the actual impedance of the driver at the crossover frequency Last edited by PeteMcK; 14th December 2011 at 11:39 PM. |
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Sorry for my uncertainty guys, I'm very indecisive
PeteMck sent me a link to this HTGuide Forum - Summary of key information from the 3-way WTMW / TMWW thread and I am really liking the look of that design, it seems to do everything that I am looking for and is a proven design that I can emulate and learn from I couldn't find the parts list on that build though, I must be missing it is parts-express the cheapest place to get the parts for that build? Thanks for all the replies, I appreciate it |
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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My next question is what would be the best way to power them? Crown amps caught my eye
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Have a look around and see what other people are using (a large proportion will be diy) dave
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Western Sydney
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re:'I couldn't find the parts list on that build though' check the zip files here: HTGuide Forum - Dayton RS WMTW Center & TMWW Mains
I had a quick squiz at the Daedelus, it only has one woofer & a more complex xover than Dennis Murphy's Dayton WWMT tower
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Impedance varies with frequency, use impedance plots of your drivers and make crossover calculations using the actual impedance of the driver at the crossover frequency |
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