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Old 22nd December 2011, 01:57 PM   #131
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#1- Work the room first, identify modal problems and try reducing reflexions;
Find a room ( or outside ) that is BIG so the BIG LONG WAVE of bass won't get interrupted ( reflected ) by boundaries
# Go to a cinema
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Old 22nd December 2011, 05:49 PM   #132
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#1- Work the room first, identify modal problems and try reducing reflexions;
#2- Distribute bass sources, up to 3 even 4 subs may be required;
#3- If dips and peaks are still too proemininent, fine tune with an Eq;
#4- Do all of this with measurement instruments;
#5- At the end, (globally) adjust to taste.
#6- Sit, listen, enjoy, FEEL the music
One thing I'd like to add is that main speakers with poor crossover balance can take away the perception of bass. If there's even 2db too little baffle step compensation, the perception of bass seems to disappear no matter who physically capable your setup is.
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Old 31st December 2011, 02:59 AM   #133
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I made myself a late X-mas gift; I've found a Tannoy TS-12, and I received my Dayton EMM-6 and Behringer 802 today. I started fiddling around. It's very interresting to see what can be done with adequate measurements.

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Old 31st December 2011, 07:09 PM   #134
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Martin,
IT'S TOTALLY WRONG!!!
and here is a video to prove it.
Grande Utopia EM from Focal - YouTube!
(Note: If the quality of the sound of this video is good is because you have good speakers at home and don't need a sub or new speakers).
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I've found a thread worth reading to help solve my bass problem... Multiple Small Subs - Geddes Approach

From what I've learned through this tread and elsewhere, "no sub = no bass" is untrue...


THANKS!...
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Old 31st December 2011, 09:24 PM   #135
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I made myself a late X-mas gift; I've found a Tannoy TS-12, and I received my Dayton EMM-6 and Behringer 802 today. I started fiddling around. It's very interresting to see what can be done with adequate measurements.

Martin.
I feel like I may have already posted this in this thread, but just in case I have not, I recommend taking a read of the following:

http://www.infinitysystems.com/home/...nf-rooms_3.pdf
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Old 31st December 2011, 10:45 PM   #136
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canonnica, I'd also like to point you to the other thread, third post, where Geddes describes the procedure step by step. I feel that it can be approached in a few different ways but generally within the framework of the above description.
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Old 31st December 2011, 10:58 PM   #137
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I've found a thread worth reading to help solve my bass problem... Multiple Small Subs - Geddes Approach

From what I've learned through this tread and elsewhere, "no sub = no bass" is untrue. But poor room = bad bass response = TRUE.

High-level steps seems to be, in this order:
#1- Work the room first, identify modal problems and try reducing reflexions;
#2- Distribute bass sources, up to 3 even 4 subs may be required;
#3- If dips and peaks are still too proemininent, fine tune with an Eq;
#4- Do all of this with measurement instruments;
#5- At the end, (globally) adjust to taste.
#6- Sit, listen, enjoy, FEEL the music

After the DD's came out, it was interesting that so many reviewers were using their calibration on other products . .

Paul
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