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Old 18th February 2013, 09:16 PM   #551
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Wow those look amazing and they're HUGE!

BTW, I was chatting with a Valchromat rep on Facebook, trying to find a dealer near me, and mentioned it to them, I sent them the link to this thread!
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Old 18th February 2013, 11:34 PM   #552
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I managed to find that valchromate IS available in Australia.
But, only in 25mm 2500x1800 sheets.
Oh, and about $470, so that makes it about 5 times the cost of mdf.

Yay, another product that will die from excessive pricing........

Sorry Shin, don't mean to derail your speaker porn thread
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Old 18th February 2013, 11:51 PM   #553
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Just had a retail display turn up here in QLD, made out of it. Wonder where it came from?
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Old 19th February 2013, 01:58 AM   #554
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I managed to find that valchromate IS available in Australia.
But, only in 25mm 2500x1800 sheets.
Oh, and about $470, so that makes it about 5 times the cost of mdf.
That seems extremely expensive!

With conversion to GBP it works out around £310 a sheet. I bought 2500x1250x25mm for £79 each from these guys:

http://www.avonply.co.uk/Client%20Ar...alchromat.aspx

Which, over here, makes it approx 2-3 times the price of MDF for the same sheet size.

I think one of a couple things is happening here. Either your distributor realises he has exclusivity and is gouging, demand is very low or the shipping costs to get it to Australia are high and that's factoring into the cost. Either way its not worth it at that price. If you can get it for a reasonable cost, I'd say its worth the premium for the time you save in finishing alone, especially if you paint. The physical properties that are superior to MDF are a bonus IMO.
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Old 19th February 2013, 10:36 AM   #555
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Just double checked my info.
Its 25 x 2500 x 1850 sheets for $427 weight, 65kg.
thats the only sheet they 'stock' here.

for my current speakers im using 25 and 32mm hmr mdf.
32 x 2400 x 1200 $105 66kg
25 x 2400 x 1200 $80

and yes, we get ripped of on pretty much everything.

petrol, is currently $1.45 litre.
rego for a 4cyl is ~600, 6cyl ~800 8cyl ~1,000.
adobe software is ~ $1,400 MORE than in the us.
we pay tax on what we earn.
we pay tax on what we spend.
we pay tax on what we do for entertainment.
we pay tax on any interest in our bank accounts.
in some states, they even tax you for the amount of rainfall they 'expect' to fall on your land.

move to australia. please, the government needs your money.............

Shin, your speakers and craftsmanship is to die for.
if i lived there, id be getting you to make my cabinets...
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Old 19th February 2013, 11:38 AM   #556
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and yes, we get ripped of on pretty much everything.

petrol, is currently $1.45 litre.
rego for a 4cyl is ~600, 6cyl ~800 8cyl ~1,000.
adobe software is ~ $1,400 MORE than in the us.
we pay tax on what we earn.
we pay tax on what we spend.
we pay tax on what we do for entertainment.
we pay tax on any interest in our bank accounts.
in some states, they even tax you for the amount of rainfall they 'expect' to fall on your land.

move to australia. please, the government needs your money.............

Shin, your speakers and craftsmanship is to die for.
if i lived there, id be getting you to make my cabinets...
Then you should go to Sweden...... The highest tax pressure in the world!

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Old 19th February 2013, 08:04 PM   #557
Mark_A_W is offline Mark_A_W  Australia
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Just double checked my info.
Its 25 x 2500 x 1850 sheets for $427 weight, 65kg.
thats the only sheet they 'stock' here.

for my current speakers im using 25 and 32mm hmr mdf.
32 x 2400 x 1200 $105 66kg
25 x 2400 x 1200 $80

and yes, we get ripped of on pretty much everything.

petrol, is currently $1.45 litre.
rego for a 4cyl is ~600, 6cyl ~800 8cyl ~1,000.
adobe software is ~ $1,400 MORE than in the us.
we pay tax on what we earn.
we pay tax on what we spend.
we pay tax on what we do for entertainment.
we pay tax on any interest in our bank accounts.
in some states, they even tax you for the amount of rainfall they 'expect' to fall on your land.

move to australia. please, the government needs your money.............

Shin, your speakers and craftsmanship is to die for.
if i lived there, id be getting you to make my cabinets...
Yes, the cost of goods is high.

But the rest of your rant is bull$hit. Australia is a low-to-middle taxing country. Roughly the same as the US (and we get healthcare), and a lot lower than the UK.


Report on International Comparison of Australian Taxes

Costs high, but taxes low. I've just been to Germany, and I felt like a king - buying these huge wheat beers for A$6. A decent 330ml local beer cost me A$10 at dinner last night. But they do pay at least 10% more tax than I do in Germany, and the average income is a fair bit lower.

Sorry for for the OT Shin. BTW, I got the Mach3 2010 Screenset running -had some fun and games with the dual-axis homing, but got there in the end.
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Old 22nd February 2013, 05:31 PM   #558
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Old 23rd February 2013, 07:35 AM   #559
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Gentlemen, let's keep the politics out of this please.

Ant, Val or MDF under the grille cloth?
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Old 23rd February 2013, 08:08 AM   #560
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Gentlemen, let's keep the politics out of this please.
yes good idea, I get enough of that in work, which is why I escape to here

Shin, fantastic work keep showing the pics!
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