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Old 5th December 2011, 01:16 AM   #1
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Default Main studio monitors

Hi all!

First of all.
I am so sorry if this topic has been discussed many times before.
At this point I am trying to wrap my head around some of the basics.

The thing is.
I wanna build some full range large stuio monitors.
They have to be flat and go down to at least 30 hz.
A big point is that they will be soffit mounted, and the room is about 8,5 m x 5.5 m x 3 m.

The thing is I have never built a pair of speakers before and will use this as a "learning" project.
As long as I get the cabinet right in the first place I`m happy .
Soo.
The speakers I wanna build is a three way large studio monitor with one(or two) 15" woofers(passive).

Are anyone aware of some affordable kit I can buy?
Or any guides that can help me trough buying in parts?
Making the cabinets?
I know very well that all this info exist around on the web but it is very hard to navigate as a beginner.

So I hope someone can help out a noob and not see me as an idiot for asking so basic questions
The thing is, I really wanna learn about this and I need some new main speakers.

They will be used for mixing and mastering in addition to quality nearfields.

Peace

Jade

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Old 5th December 2011, 01:40 AM   #2
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You're in the wrong forum. You want the multi-way. Full range for us means one driver covering the frequency range which is not your stated goal. Start your thread on the multi-way forum and good luck!
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Old 5th December 2011, 01:59 AM   #3
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Lol.
I`m so sorry..
I was just like, hell yeah lets build some full range monitors

Can moderator move the thread?
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Old 5th December 2011, 02:01 AM   #4
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Moved - no worries.
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Old 5th December 2011, 01:17 PM   #5
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Hi,

Its not the sort of thing you want to do as your first build / learning exercise.

There are loads of things you need to get right for large and loud studio
(= very expensive) speakers that go down to at least 30Hz and will play
loud across the spectrum with low distortion and consistent dispersion.

I am not aware of any published designs or kits out there ......

Soffits themselves seem to be rather tricky .....

rgds, sreten.
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Old 5th December 2011, 01:31 PM   #6
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Accurate Studio Monitors. Accuracy here being relative.

For this you need to concentrate equally on room acoustics.

Kits that you could look at include the K100 from Wilmslow Audio, these are based on ATC SCM loudspeakers with same number.
K100
ATC Loudspeakers. SCM100
The BBC use a lot of ATC.
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Old 5th December 2011, 01:52 PM   #7
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if you want an extremely accurate speaker for Nearfield use (DIY form -no kit available as such) for moderate volume listening (provided you can give them the required space) consider the Linkwitz Pluto 2.1.
The current version of Pluto impressively flat down to 40hz (-3db) and with extension down to 30hz (-6db). Also the speaker is comfortable to listen to for hours but extremely revealing with pin sharp imaging (when listening close to nearfield). Vocal reproduction is superb and the speaker is an excellent upgrade over the LS3/5a, which I have used for many years.



A review of the older 2.0 version:
http://theaudiocritic.com/plog/index...Id=37&blogId=1

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Old 5th December 2011, 02:06 PM   #8
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Thx for moving the thread, Pano

Sreten.
I understand that my project is kind of ambitious but I am determined to do it.
My understanding of frequencies and dynamic response is good as I have worked as an audio engineer and musician for several years.

Rob g.
Thank you so much for your reply.
I have good insight in acustic treatment as I have been doing it for many years.
One or to walls will also be moved so I achieve better room ratios.
The speakers itself will actually be custom built for the spesific room.

About the links you posted, are those designed to be studio monitors?
Anything special I have to be looking after since they are going to be soffit mounted?
I have good knowledge on how to soffit mount so I don`t need any help with that

To be more specific on the style of speakers I wanna build. Here are some different examples.
-jbl 4435
-westlake bbsm 15
-large tannoy mains(f.ex dmt series)
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Old 5th December 2011, 02:22 PM   #9
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The ATC's are specifically studio monitors, widely used by the BBC. The Wilmslow units are a copy of the ATC speaker, however they have changed the tweeter for a more expensive unit than ATC used to use (I do not know about now).
These speakers will play extremely loud. The limiting factor (for my taste) will be the treble (although they will play much louder than my personal comfort zone).

The Pluto's will not suit listeners who want very high levels from their nearfields but have very even power response, decently flat frequency response and the drive units are beautifully integrated (seamless).
If you want very high levels look elsewhere.

Large Tannoys are great fun on the right material, as they are very dynamic but they would be way down the list for low colouration for monitoring.

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Old 5th December 2011, 02:51 PM   #10
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Rob.

The atc`s look very good!
I have been searching them up and they seem awesome.

However, the kit is a little expensive with it`s 1,666 pounds.
Are there any "bang for the buck" stuff I could build?

The thing is me and my wife have bought a huge school building to fulfill our dreams. So we are very low on funds
I will be using ns10`s and a pair of dynaudio bm5`s as other monitors.
So I need the mains for client showcases and honest bass response.

I dunno..

Thx for the help!

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