Speaker placement in my apartment

henkee · 30th November 2011, 10:17 PM

I have recently moved in to a new apartment and wants to have tips regarding the placement of the speakers or everything in my livingroom.

The room is rectangular with the following measurements: 4,82m x 4,13 m and the ceiling height of 2,50m, concretewalls.

Attached a link to how the room and placement looks like now.

If i change my listening position a little bit forward i get extremely much low bass and if i change it backwards i losses almost all the bass, have tried to moved the speakers and toed them in...

What do you think? Finetune my actual arrangement or change to "longwall" arrangement?

Thanks for help

rob g · 30th November 2011, 10:33 PM

Hi Henkee,
Try driving the speakers down the width of the room instead of the length. Speakers on the wall without/opposite the door.
That way you can get more space between the speakers and the side walls to minimize early reflections.
Sofa right of door.
What is the Bokhylla in english?
if it is a cupboard move it to the other side of the room.

burgunder · 30th November 2011, 10:59 PM

Bokhylla = bookshelf

Swedish ain't that difficult atleast not for a dane

dabbler · 30th November 2011, 11:11 PM

Hi Henkee,

Room modes are the problem here and they are nearly impossible to fix completely without room treatment. Would you be willing to use corner bass traps?

rob g · 30th November 2011, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgunder

Bokhylla = bookshelf

Swedish ain't that difficult atleast not for a dane

Cheers.

rob g · 30th November 2011, 11:20 PM

A nearly square room is far from ideal but I have heard some of the best sounds from small square rooms. That is when they are heavily cluttered.

Minimalism wrecks the potential for good sound, especially in a room like this. Get busy with the clutter!
Heavy absorbing furniture and lots of clutter spread around the room for diffraction.

dabbler · 1st December 2011, 12:04 AM

Hi Rob G,

Filling a room to the brim with furniture may work but I would think it is more practical to use broadband absorption panels, especially in this case where low frequency nulls are severe. Also the results would be far more predictable and effective.

rob g · 1st December 2011, 12:08 AM

Yes, a bit of applied science could potentially make the room sound better but how many people could get away with room treatment in a normal home?

dabbler · 1st December 2011, 12:47 AM

It depends on who you are sharing the space with

Corner panels can be made to fit quite seamlessly into a room. Especially "super chunk" type panels with fabric covers :

Corner Traps finally finished! - Home Theater Forum and Systems - HomeTheaterShack.com

Considering it is the most useful contribution you can make to sound quality in your room I'd say it's worth contemplating.

henkee · 1st December 2011, 06:23 AM

Thanks för all the answers, i dont want to install bass traps or something like that, i just want to have the best possible sound by arranging in my room. I will try a longwall arrangement with the speakers on the opposite wall to the entrance to begin with.

30th November 2011, 10:17 PM	#1
henkee diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2011	Speaker placement in my apartment I have recently moved in to a new apartment and wants to have tips regarding the placement of the speakers or everything in my livingroom. The room is rectangular with the following measurements: 4,82m x 4,13 m and the ceiling height of 2,50m, concretewalls. Attached a link to how the room and placement looks like now. If i change my listening position a little bit forward i get extremely much low bass and if i change it backwards i losses almost all the bass, have tried to moved the speakers and toed them in... What do you think? Finetune my actual arrangement or change to "longwall" arrangement? Thanks for help

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30th November 2011, 10:33 PM	#2
rob g diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2011	Hi Henkee, Try driving the speakers down the width of the room instead of the length. Speakers on the wall without/opposite the door. That way you can get more space between the speakers and the side walls to minimize early reflections. Sofa right of door. What is the Bokhylla in english? if it is a cupboard move it to the other side of the room.

30th November 2011, 10:59 PM	#3
burgunder diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2006	Bokhylla = bookshelf Swedish ain't that difficult atleast not for a dane

30th November 2011, 11:11 PM	#4
dabbler Account disabled at member's request Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Between cities!	Hi Henkee, Room modes are the problem here and they are nearly impossible to fix completely without room treatment. Would you be willing to use corner bass traps?

30th November 2011, 11:20 PM	#6
rob g diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2011	A nearly square room is far from ideal but I have heard some of the best sounds from small square rooms. That is when they are heavily cluttered. Minimalism wrecks the potential for good sound, especially in a room like this. Get busy with the clutter! Heavy absorbing furniture and lots of clutter spread around the room for diffraction.

1st December 2011, 12:04 AM	#7
dabbler Account disabled at member's request Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Between cities!	Hi Rob G, Filling a room to the brim with furniture may work but I would think it is more practical to use broadband absorption panels, especially in this case where low frequency nulls are severe. Also the results would be far more predictable and effective.

1st December 2011, 12:08 AM	#8
rob g diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2011	Yes, a bit of applied science could potentially make the room sound better but how many people could get away with room treatment in a normal home?

1st December 2011, 12:47 AM	#9
dabbler Account disabled at member's request Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Between cities!	It depends on who you are sharing the space with Corner panels can be made to fit quite seamlessly into a room. Especially "super chunk" type panels with fabric covers : Corner Traps finally finished! - Home Theater Forum and Systems - HomeTheaterShack.com Considering it is the most useful contribution you can make to sound quality in your room I'd say it's worth contemplating.

1st December 2011, 06:23 AM	#10
henkee diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2011	Thanks för all the answers, i dont want to install bass traps or something like that, i just want to have the best possible sound by arranging in my room. I will try a longwall arrangement with the speakers on the opposite wall to the entrance to begin with.

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